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Best way to fix a rusted Rim

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Scottie

08-13-2006 09:07:27




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Hi all, I have a rim that is rusted thru in several locations. I want to keep the tractor mobile, and new or used rims are not affordable for me right now. I have access to tools, so torch and mig welder is not an issue, its just the "Know how" to fix the rim..Would like to do it correctly the first time.
Thanks in advance,
Scott.




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cory f

08-14-2006 18:50:01




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to Scottie, 08-13-2006 09:07:27  
I had 2 bad 9x38 deep center rims earlier this year.

on 1 after clearing away the rusted material the holes were only the size of a dime. I welded these up starting where the surrounding material was full thickness and worked my way in. then just ground and filled until I was happy with the finish. (1/16 rod at 40 amps)

On the 2nd, the holes were (are) just too big. In my search for a good (or bad, to harvest a patch) used rim, I eventually lucked out and found an excellent rim 1 mile from the house. It took a while to find, but they are out there.

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martin reece

08-13-2006 17:55:55




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to Scottie, 08-13-2006 09:07:27  
I did like Scottie said, I had an old rusted out rim that was rotted out around the valve stem. I cut out a piece in a good spot , then cut out the bad spot on the rim I was fixing and then mig welded the patch in and grinded everything smooth and flush.I then sandblasted the entire rim and painted it.Regards Martin



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Martin Reece

08-13-2006 18:00:38




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to martin reece, 08-13-2006 17:55:55  
Sorry about the confusion. I meant that I did as Andy Martin did.



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magman

08-13-2006 12:43:41




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to Scottie, 08-13-2006 09:07:27  
What tractor? JON



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TomH in PA

08-13-2006 11:30:33




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to Scottie, 08-13-2006 09:07:27  
Keep the air pressure low in a suspect rim. I saw one blow apart, almost took the shed door right off the hinges.



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Andy Martin

08-13-2006 10:33:36




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to Scottie, 08-13-2006 09:07:27  
You might look for another bad rim. They can be had pretty cheaply. There will always be a good section you can cut out of the new rim and weld in to a matching cut out in the old rim. This is a lot easier than it sounds. I have patched several, including a few where two feet or more of the bead was involved.

Painting the tube side of the rim is a good idea. I use a thin primer coat and let it dry twice as long as you want to so the tube won't stick to it. Then use lot's of baby powder to help the tube slip around.

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Andy Martin

08-13-2006 10:35:51




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to Andy Martin, 08-13-2006 10:33:36  
I forgot to add, by putting in a cut out you can grind the weld flush both sides and make a nearly invisible repair.



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Scottie

08-13-2006 09:37:15




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 How to prep the rim where the Tube sits.. in reply to Scottie, 08-13-2006 09:07:27  
Do you treat the inside of the rim with anything before putting the tube and tire back on?? I have been chipping off rust and then using a very stiff wire wheel to make it as smooth as possible, but would like to protect the inner tube as well...
Thanks,
Scott.



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RustyFarmall

08-13-2006 09:44:47




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 Re: How to prep the rim where the Tube sits.. in reply to Scottie, 08-13-2006 09:37:15  
You're on the right track, make it as smooth as possible, and maybe just a little bit smoother than that. If there are some deep pits, you can fill them with auto body filler and then work it down smooth. A good thick, heavy coat of rust-o-leum enamel or similar is not a bad idea.



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Scottie

08-13-2006 09:57:01




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 Thank you for the advise in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-13-2006 09:44:47  
I am going to do just what you said, and yes inside the rim it is very deep pitted, this project is a mercy saving task, the rim by all rights is in bad shape, but still has enough steel in it to last for several years, at least until I can buy good used, or new rims...Thank you very much for your advice, I appreciate it!! Plus look at the learning experience I get, and then I can pass it along to others
Scott.

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old

08-13-2006 15:32:59




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 Re: Thank you for the advise in reply to Scottie, 08-13-2006 09:57:01  
Some thing else that also works well after you paint it is to take an old tube and cut it and put it on the rim so the new tube rides on the old tube instead of the rust/paint on the rim.Works best if you can find a tube from a small size so it sits good and tight on the rim. I have also used duct tape to keep a tube from getting holes for a rusty rim

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old

08-13-2006 09:18:43




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to Scottie, 08-13-2006 09:07:27  
If the holes aren't to big you can just weld them up and then grind the weld off so to make it smooth and put it all back togeather. If there very big you will need to make a fish plate to cover the hole and weld it on and grind that sooth. BTDT more then once



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KRUSS

08-13-2006 12:30:53




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to old, 08-13-2006 09:18:43  
About how much could a person expect to have to pay for a really good used rim for A or B?



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old

08-13-2006 13:22:23




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to KRUSS, 08-13-2006 12:30:53  
A or B what?? Theres a good number of brands of tractors that made As and Bs so I can't say with out know the brand



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KRUSS

08-13-2006 13:41:52




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to old, 08-13-2006 13:22:23  
Farmall A or B



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old

08-13-2006 15:21:17




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to KRUSS, 08-13-2006 13:41:52  
I sold a couple of them a year or 2 ago and I think I got $75 each for them, but they where is very good condition.



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magman

08-13-2006 12:42:26




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 Re: Best way to fix a rusted Rim in reply to KRUSS, 08-13-2006 12:30:53  
If you live any where near Central NY I would give you one. It just needs some lugs welded on it I think. JON



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