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WD9 Rear seal. Which is best, felt or neoprene?

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Grabatire

06-04-2006 15:48:44




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Hi all: It's been a while since I troubled you but I'm back with a head scratcher.

When I tore the engine down the engine on my WD9 I found a two-piece neoprene type rear seal and when I tore my parts tractor engine down it had a two-piece felt type seal. Each engine has a seal retainer that is specific to the type of seal being used: i.e. the neoprene seal will not fit in the felt seals' retainer and vice versa.

Both cranks have an angular groove that runs under the seal, I suppose the purpose of which, is too wipe across the seal and draw whatever oil is trying to escape, back into the engine. I can see the groove having a positive effect on the felt seal but how effective can a neoprene seal be when the lips of the seal are climbing in and out of a groove all the time? I thought of machining the crank down to remove the groove but it would weaken the crank, and by measurement, would then be too small to allow the neoprene seal to even touch the crank, much less stop any oil.

I’m assuming the neoprene type seal is an update to replace the felt type, however it would seem that a crank without the groove should be part of the mix to allow the neoprene seal to run on a flat surface.

Anybody have a comment you can share?

THX, Grabatire.

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ihc49er

06-04-2006 22:07:03




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 Re: WD9 Rear seal. Which is best, felt or neopren in reply to Grabatire, 06-04-2006 15:48:44  
yes the neoprene is an up date , because they had problems with rear seal leaks.



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Michael Soldan

06-04-2006 17:30:40




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 Re: WD9 Rear seal. Which is best, felt or neopren in reply to Grabatire, 06-04-2006 15:48:44  
I had an old I-H dealer that has been in the business for 50 years tell me to put the seal on and install it in a new position on either side of the groove made by the old one. I have used neophryne on several seal applications on H's and M and have great success with them. I install one seal. Some argue using two is better but I think you are just doubling your cost as one seal should seal properly..my opinion based on experience..Mike in Exeter Ontario

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David Blair

06-04-2006 16:01:51




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 Re: WD9 Rear seal. Which is best, felt or neopren in reply to Grabatire, 06-04-2006 15:48:44  
Any modern automotive engines that I have seen use a neoprene seal and have the angular groves . Iwould use the newer style seal .Definately DO NOT change the crank in this critical area . Good luck



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