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Michael Sheik

04-24-2006 04:48:36




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I said opinions on axle cutoff. Not pot-shots at me personally! See Reply to your post




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Nat 2

04-24-2006 11:19:27




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 HEY ALL OF YOU! in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
I think everyone is flying off the handle for nothing.

Michael NEVER said he was going to lop of the axles so he couldn't put duals on!

He only wants to trim them off so they don't stick out beyond the axle dual hubs. At least that is how I interpreted his original post.

Michael, there is absolutely, positively no technical reason why you can't lop off the axles. The tractor will not fall on a pile. The tractor will not drive differently.

If all you're going to do is shorten the axles to the outside of the axle dual hubs, then nobody should have a single, solitary problem with what you're doing. You're not devaluing the tractor by a cent.

The tractor must have extra-long axles to allow you to run duals in row crops. Maybe a rare option, but nothing that makes the tractor any more valuable than one with regular long axles.

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John A

04-24-2006 11:04:18




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
Michael,I will attempt to answer the ? why have those long axles....To better adjust a tractor to wider row spaceings, or Dual or tripple rear tire applications. A 1066 has hp in excess of 160 horses from the factory, even though its stated hp was 135 I beleve. It is hard to deliver 150+ hp to the ground, in useable form, without either duals or large amts of weight. When the tractor is used as a Primary tillage tractor on large plows and the like! Hope this helps!..... .
I answered you first post Also as others did, I too had to search again , and again what he said that sent you off. For the life of me I said pretty much the same. Hugh has forgotton more than most of us will ever know! He was very correct in his answer SO was Rusty, Paul, and all the others! Just remember that this is a Public Forum! and the best one out there too...JMO! Also remember that unless you plan too keep it forever you will not get the best selling/tradein value for your tractor. All that said, H&ll son it is your tractor do as you want. Just don't come crying to the rest of the folks here when this action causes a new problem down the the road. I still beleve it is a mistake. If you are bent to cut, use a sawzall not a gas-ax.
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John A.

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Larry806

04-24-2006 10:58:39




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
Don't worry about him. He'll stab you in the back and when you call him on it he'll reply he won't talk to you anymore.



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Hugh MacKay

04-24-2006 14:40:20




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Larry806, 04-24-2006 10:58:39  
Larry: In case you haven't caught on, in 6 years and roughly 30,000 posts here at YT, you are the first and only guy I've ever refused to discuss anything with.



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Larry806

04-25-2006 18:36:44




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-24-2006 14:40:20  
As I said put up or shut up you chose to do the latter



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mulligan

04-24-2006 10:46:24




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
When I read your post early this morning, I'd have bet my first cup of coffee that you were going to get dog piled. You just can't get that upset over the opinions of a total stranger. I thought he did provide a decent answer along with the shot.



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Paul in Mich

04-24-2006 10:09:28




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
Michael,

I don"t know how long you have been posting or reading here, but you asked a question that had you researched the possibilities, may not have asked in the first place. Mr.(Hugh)MacKay is, in my opinion, one of the more knowledgable people on these forums. He may be blunt, but I went back to the original thread, and what I saw was someone trying to make a impactual statement to which in turn you would assimilate and think twice before doing something irreversable and stupid. Of course, as others have said, it is your tractor and you can do anything you want,in which case, you had little reason to seek someone elses opinion. Once you did, however, you must be able to accept a variety of opinions whether you like them or not. The point Hugh was making, and others as well is that the axle length of a 1086 is such that it will accept dual rear tires. When you match HP to traction, it is impossible to approach maximum or optimum effeciency from a 1086 unless it is equipped with duals. YOu cant put enough weight or enough fluid in the tires of single rear tires to get enough traction to utilize the HP capabilities of a 1086. Using it as a single rear tired tractor for your own purposes may be fine, but nobody else is going to pay fair value for a 1086 that has had the axles chopped off so as not to be able to add duals. It just isnt going to happen. So then what you are left with, unless you plan on keeping the tractor forever, is a big scrap iron pile, because that is all you"ll get for it, because thats all it is worth to someone else. You"d be much further ahead to modify the width of the barn door if thats what it would take to be able to put the tractor inside than to ruin the tractor. Nobody ever got less money for a barn that had a larger door, and nobody ever got more money for a tractor with the axles cut short. Now you have to ashk yourself the question, what is the short lopped of axles going to be worth to you, now and in the future. You dont need to ask anyone"s opinion for that. Hack away if you dare.

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MidMiGene

04-24-2006 08:33:01




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
Maybe this is not possible. Tie a string at the top of the door opening, dead in the center of the opening. Now tie a small tennis ball to the string and let it hang down so it is at eye level when your on the tractor. It will now identify the center for you. When driving in or out of the opening, just make sure the tractor rear axles are centered in the opening. If you can do this, the axles will never touch the sides. I have an identifying mark at the top of my garage door, so I can get my 756D in there without damaging the opening any more than I already have. Just another wandering mind trying to come up with an answer that might keep everyone happy. Gene

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Screamin' Detroit

04-24-2006 08:24:56




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
You asked, in your original post, for any and all opinions. Hugh gave his. Now you're just opening yourself up for the contempt of the rest of this board. Let it be. Go, do what you want to your tractor. But keep your character shots off this board. What is done is done, move on.



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RustyFarmall

04-24-2006 07:25:58




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
I had to search for the original thread so I would understand why you are so upset, and I still don't understand. You asked a question, and you recieved some very good answers, especially from Mr. McKay. It's your tractor, if you want to wreck it, go right ahead. There are plenty of used parts suppliers in the country who will be more than willing to sell you a set of axles to replace the ones you butchered, and plenty of mechanics who will jump at the chance to do the work for you at a cost of about $60 per hour. Either build a bigger shed or leave the tractor set outside, but please don't be taking cheap pot-shots at the folks that took the time to answer your question.

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Jay (ND)

04-24-2006 06:45:18




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
Ah, just go for it. You have your reasons. Want me to come down and hold the light for you?



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Peabody

04-24-2006 06:37:25




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
Normally, Hugh is a pussycat. Every now and then, though, he has a little gunpowder for breakfast. :-)



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Ken_Id

04-24-2006 06:19:55




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
I really enjoy this forum, read it evey day, don't post very often. I'm almost as old as Mr. MacKay and I've farmed all my life. If someone asks me for advise on cutting off axels on a tractor I could give an answer without offending them.Its your tractor, do what you want.



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Allan In NE

04-24-2006 06:19:03




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
Mike,

Go out and get those axles chopped off nice and short, stick the tractor in a shed (make sure your insurance is paid up) and even enter the thing in a silly tractor pull if you so desire and if that is your persuasion.

It's your tractor.

Allan



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CNKS

04-24-2006 05:06:55




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to Michael Sheik, 04-24-2006 04:48:36  
Hugh says what he wants -- most of the time he is correct ---



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CNKS

04-24-2006 05:23:25




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to CNKS, 04-24-2006 05:06:55  
I read your response to Hugh's post. Hugh is about 63-64, farmed all his life in Canada. He is opinionated, admits that he is. But, basically he has been there and done that. I don't agree with all his answers, but he is seldom off the track. So, calm down and do what you want. I just hate to see anyone ruin a tractor, owner or not, as there aren't that many left. I "restore" tractors -- not as complicated as a 1066, but I see things that I wonder why on earth someone did.

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Jay (ND)

04-24-2006 06:53:29




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 Re: Hey Mr. MacKay in reply to CNKS, 04-24-2006 05:23:25  
And now you have the answer to this one =)

Jay



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