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Farmall A Steering House disassembly

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Midwest Boy

02-25-2006 20:38:55




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I need to fix a crack and put a gasket into a steering house on a Interantioal A. What i would like to know, what steps would there be to take it down just enough to brase and put in a new gasket around the outside edge? Would it work better with oil or grease, the manual i believe says oil, but would grease be a better deal because of the crack? I would appreciate any input. Thanks




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Mr. Farmall

02-26-2006 16:59:41




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 Re: Farmall A Steering House disassembly in reply to Midwest Boy, 02-25-2006 20:38:55  
I whould replace the cracked steering gearbox casting or have the crack welded at a good welding shop depending where the crack is, regardless of useing gear oil or greese.



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MACE

02-26-2006 06:42:32




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 Re: Farmall A Steering House disassembly in reply to Midwest Boy, 02-25-2006 20:38:55  
Howdy,

I rebuilt a farmall A a while ago and pumped my stearing gear box full of grease. NO MESS is all I have to say. Above the bearing is a grease fitting on my A. Not sure if it came that way or not. The proper plug on top is VENTED. Which works great if you are pumping grease into it. I can send you pictures if you like. I rebuilt mine after taking it completely apart. I also replaced all bearings and seals along with the gasket on the two halfs. I usually run a very very small bead, (not more than a 1/16th of an inch) of black silicone on both sides of the gasket. Probably not nessesary, but it works for me. If you need pictures or help, let me know.

MACE

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Hugh MacKay

02-26-2006 05:41:38




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 Re: Farmall A Steering House disassembly in reply to Midwest Boy, 02-25-2006 20:38:55  
Midwest Boy: If the steering is tight, and the crack is not going to affect structural strength of tractor, I'd be tempted to drain the gear oil, install a grease zerk in the drain port and pump it full of of moly grease. I know you will get those nay-sayers telling you this is not the proper way and that if care is taken with a rebuild it will be good as new.

However, let me remind you most of these tractors started leaking from their steering gear box within 5 years of being new. I can't believe IH made that many mistakes assembling these when new. No, of course they didn't, the steering box was just poor design. I've had 2 of these going for years on moly grease, no mess, no fuss and no rebuilding.

Oh, by the way the steering boxes that never leaked were on tractors that never did anything. That will also be true if you rebuild by the book. If your just going to look at it, fine, if your going to work it be ready for a mess. Now, if you like mucking around in the grease and oil, disregard my advice.

I also have a 1963 Farmall 140, clearly I can see it has never leaked. I know it sat parked in a heated warehouse for many years. My opinion on this 140 is based on my many years of starting out with new tractors. Judging from wear on items like front end, fast hitch, seat, control levers, etc., my guess is this 140 has yet to hit the 500 hours of service mark since new.

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banjo

02-25-2006 23:58:27




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 Re: Farmall A Steering House disassembly in reply to Midwest Boy, 02-25-2006 20:38:55  
I recently put new bearings and bushings and seals in my super a. If you have to remove the front axle it is a pain.

I have removed it without taking the radiator off. Not sure if the a is the same.I took grill,hood off and took the fan shroud out so i could remove the U bolt on the front . I had the tractor supported with a 2o ton bottle jack and chain hoist. I then removed the steering arm and pivot pin and slid the front axle out from under it with a floor jack. just rolled it back under when the time came.it is heavy so dont take it off the jack if you do it this way.

There are 6 bolts that hold the bottom of the steering housing, thats all there is to that. I did not remove the top housing on mine.I put some gasket sealer on mine when i reassembled. first time the gasket did not seal and gear oil oozed out.

I used some stp and no smoke and 90 wt gear oil in mine.no leaks yet.i did grease the top bearing.

Not sure where your crack is and how far you need to tear it down.
others may have a better method.

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