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jcarter

02-19-2006 18:39:59




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Does anybody have any knowledge about model# 64 combines?It is advertised as a#65, but my searching has only came up with 44's &64's.This one is parked in a bush, and a poor picture shows a motor over the back of the hitch area.How old?Are they sought after for restoration,are they worth anything? Seems like old combines have been scrapped more, and are getting harder to find.One of these models in this part of the world is pretty rare.

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Tim Malin

02-23-2006 09:35:47




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to jcarter, 02-19-2006 18:39:59  
I have a 76 and an 82, and I know a lot about the 76 but so-so on the 64. First of all, it is difficult to find a 76. Second of all, it is damn near impossible to find a 64. I have seen two in my entire life, one was at a county fair and the other is sitting in a weedpatch near my girlfriend's house. I'd love to own one someday. The 76 and 64 are almost identical, I don't know what the differences really were, can someone help me on that? But I'm planning on picking up this 64 for parts, either for someone (like you!) who might need 64 parts or myself because I know many parts between the 76 and 64 are interchangeable. The canvas is not nice in beans, I did beans with my 76 this fall and it was a nightmare, the beans love to roll down between the canvas and the metal along the edges and drop into the pan, and then get bunched up between the roller and the canvas. I was using a brand new, unstretched canvas, too, so that didn't help things that I was always tightening. But what an unbelievably clean machine. I was more than flored. But when I bought the 82 after the 76 broke down, I knew in two rounds which machine I was going to use for beans and which one I was using for oats. I love my 76, I really do, but I don't know why the heck anyone in their right mind would continue running a 76 after running an 82. The thing is, I still call it my preferred combine!!! :-D :-D :-D (Looks good behind a Super M ;-) )

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Glen in TX

02-20-2006 10:17:15




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to jcarter, 02-19-2006 18:39:59  
Says, 64, 1950-54 in Grain Harvesters book. Doesn't list a 65 and jumps to a model 76 after that.



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sammy the RED

02-20-2006 07:56:41




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to jcarter, 02-19-2006 18:39:59  
Just realized the book I was useing for information, does not go back past 1948 ! %^$@#@&*@# !!! Sorry for any mis-information.
After 1948 the information should be good. ;o]



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sammy the RED

02-20-2006 06:26:35




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to jcarter, 02-19-2006 18:39:59  
McCormick 42R about 1948 - 1949.
McCormick 52 1948 - 1953.
McCormick 62 1948 - 1953. McCormick 64 pto 1952 - 1954.
McCormick 64 motor 1952 - 1956.
McCormick 76 1955 - 1959.
McCormick 123 SP 1948.
McCormick 125 SP 1948 - 1953.
McCormick 127 SP 1952 - 1955.



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Super A

02-20-2006 06:34:49




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to sammy the RED, 02-20-2006 06:26:35  
Actually the 42R and 52R were produced a little earlier:
McCormick-Deering 42R was from 1940-1943.
McCormick-Deering (later McCormick) 52R 1943-1950.

The dates you list for the 64 and 76 look about right.

HTH
Al



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sammy the RED

02-20-2006 06:55:27




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to Super A, 02-20-2006 06:34:49  
I don't have all my books in front of me right now (I hate moving) but, did they introduce the 42 in 1940 then, in 1948 come out with the 42R ?

The 42 was added to the line with the 61 and 22 in 1940 ?



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Super A

02-20-2006 11:29:52




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to sammy the RED, 02-20-2006 06:55:27  
The 42 and 42R are the same machine. The 42R just had a rasp bar cylinder and the 42 had a "flail" cylinder which basically was angle iron bars instead of regular cylinder bars. Both came out in 1940. I can't prove this but I think most of them were 42R's. The 52R is just a 42R with a wider width of cut, (5' instead of 4')a bigger grain tank if it was a tanker model, and also the 52R could have an optional power unit (Continental Y-69, later a Farmall Cub) instead of PTO drive. There were quite a few updates over the 42R's production years, it looks like that it sort of "morphed" into the 52R.

I'll have to check but I think the 62 came out with the 42R. It was styled like the 42R but I believe it's design is somewhat different than the 42R.

Al

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sammy the RED

02-20-2006 06:37:01




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to Super A, 02-20-2006 06:34:49  
That is why I typed "about", was not sure. ;o]



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El Toro

02-20-2006 05:41:09




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to jcarter, 02-19-2006 18:39:59  
The 64 combine was probably made in in the 1930's
and had either the C-60 or C-113 engine. IH came out with their first self-propelled in 1942 known
as the 123-SP with a 6 cylinder engine. If you could get the date code from the engine, that could provide a more accurate date. Hal



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sammy the RED

02-20-2006 06:35:14




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to El Toro, 02-20-2006 05:41:09  
third party image

123SP



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1206SWMO

02-20-2006 12:18:34




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to sammy the RED, 02-20-2006 06:35:14  
Wow!! Thats sure a beautiful old 123 IH SP combine.Where and when was this picture taken?

I'll have to post a picture of my Dads old 123 that he used from 1959-62.



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El Toro

02-20-2006 07:09:02




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to sammy the RED, 02-20-2006 06:35:14  
Here's a web site for IH combines. Hal


http://www.toytractorshow.com/ih_conventional_combine_history.htm



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El Toro

02-20-2006 06:57:18




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to sammy the RED, 02-20-2006 06:35:14  
I wonder how many farmers that came up with a prototype self-propelled combine before IH did?
Nice picture. Hal



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jcarter

02-20-2006 06:11:26




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to El Toro, 02-20-2006 05:41:09  
I'm familiar with the 123's and on.This 64 is a lot diferent looking, along the stle of a JD 12a.Wondered if they were imported?There may have been more inrow crop country than western Canada.Going to post on thecombine site to see if someone over there has some info.



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Rod M.

02-19-2006 19:04:21




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 Re: old pull type combines in reply to jcarter, 02-19-2006 18:39:59  
I have no idea but would also like to know ..my Grandfathers McCormick Deering combine still sits in the barn were he parked it in 1972, and his McCormick thresher still sits in another barn that hasn't moved since he put it there in the 60's



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