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Treg

10-13-2005 07:47:54




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I have 2 tractors that were completly under water, thanks to hurricane katrina. What is the best way to deal with this. Haven't had time to touch either one since the storm. Can anyone in the area get them running? How much would it cost to get them back in shape? I have a 1950 superAV and 1976 140 high crop. I live east of New Orleans in St. Bernard Parish. Thanks.




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Jim Allen

10-14-2005 06:25:01




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 Re: tractor under water in reply to Treg, 10-13-2005 07:47:54  
I'm sorry for your losses in the Katrina crisis. I’m sure they extend beyond two tractors. You got some fairly optimistic views here. I' m going to take the other side. I've tried to resurrect three vehicles that were under water for extended periods and even after a lot of work, they didn't work out very well. Mine were in fresh water and that was bad enough. In your case, they've been sitting in brackish water for an extended period and that's much worse. I was also involved in the salvage of a boat engine that had been under salt water for a few years and the corrosion was beyond belief. In my opinion, you need to get these tractors apart NOW and get everything cleaned out if you hope to save them. I mean apart down to a pile of parts. It’s just like pulling up something from the sea. The salt water eats at everything as soon as it hits the air. You're probably going to have a lot of hard parts etched or outright corroded that will need to be replaced. Until you wash them in fresh water and preserve them with oil, that corrosion will continue. I can tell you from experience, everything you don't tear down and rebuild will be a problem later on. I bought two totalled SUVs cheaply that were in a flood thinking I could make one good one for myself. It was a nightmare of Biblical proportions and I was a professional mechanic at the time. I worked at a dealership and was involved in another SUV that was in a flood and it was totalled for good reason and I watche it go happily away. After my experience, if it were my tractors, especially if they are insured, I'd be tempted to write them off. There' s always sentimental value to consider, but for the time and effort it's probably going to take, you can buy a couple of comparable used tractors and be using them next week. I think if they'd have been under for only a couple of days, you'd have a good chance to save them cheaply. As it is, I don't think so. Again, sorry to be the bearer of doom and gloom... especially at a time like this.

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Cityboy-McCoy

10-14-2005 04:29:42




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 Re: tractor under water in reply to Treg, 10-13-2005 07:47:54  
If you have waited this long, (and I understand why,) and it was saltwater, then I'm guessing a total teardown would be required because the bearings in all major components will be etched. Also, the copper wires will soon turn green with corrosion and fail, meaning rewiring will soon be required.
If it was freshwater, then things may not be so bad; but, a good flushing is in order and it is very important to get them running immediately, then flush again, etc.

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T_Bone

10-13-2005 20:20:10




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 Re: tractor under water in reply to Treg, 10-13-2005 07:47:54  
Hi Treg,

I've only had a newer boat motor underwater for 48hrs, so I'll base my opinion on that. During a strom my 2yr old 8hp sheared the two 1/2" SS mounting bolts and fell into 2ft of water where it came to rest on it's side in the mud. The engine was NOT running when it entered the water.

The supply air intake uses a intake reed valve just behind the carburator so it was a good seal into the crankcase area. Crankcase vacuum opens the reed valve. Upon carb removal I found a small amount of sand/silt on top of the reed valve. I removed the reed valve so I could see into the crankcase. I didn't see any sand or silt or signs of water. I pulled both spark plugs and again NO water/sand/silt. Muffler inspection revealed mud in the lower chamber but was clean to the head mount area.

My conclusion: I felt pretty good that no water entered the combustion area or crankcase or transmission.

The throttle twist grip, outside engine case, lower muffler was totaly filled with sand, slit and mud. The "closed" fuel line and squeeze bulb had water and dirt inside. The fuel tank was distroyed as the fuel gauge broke and let mud and water in. As it was, total time to clean was about 6hrs on this simple 2cyl engine.

Since a tractor engine and transmission has no sealing method in the intake, combustion area, or transmission, like my boat motor has, I would speculate that a "total" tear down cleaning would be required of the tractors to assure any type of continued life span.

Any thing less and I think you will disappointed.

T_Bone

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old

10-13-2005 10:32:41




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 Re: tractor under water in reply to Treg, 10-13-2005 07:47:54  
Last one I had that type of problem with ended up needing to be taken apart because of sand/mud in every thing. You may get lucky with just needing to drain every thing run it and the change every thing again. I'd start by draining the engine oil and then refill and fill the cylinders with tranny fluid after turning it over a few times with the plugs out to get the water out of the cylinders



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Bill46

10-13-2005 09:52:18




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 Re: tractor under water in reply to Treg, 10-13-2005 07:47:54  
Treg, do not forget the transmission and gear reductions. They have oil too...and if they went under more than likely have water in them too.
Bottom like, if something has oil or grease in it...drain, flush, drain and keep doing it until clean oil/grease comes out. Once you have gotten all the water out or what you think is all out, run it a few times then do it all over again.
Don't take short cuts until you you can run/drive it for a few hours and everything looks good.
Had a friend drop one thru the ice when we were pulling logs years ago. He took short cuts and ended up replacing every bearing in the transmission and gear reductions.
Better to be a little on the safe side.
My 2 cents....

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El Toro

10-13-2005 08:42:24




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 Re: tractor under water in reply to Treg, 10-13-2005 07:47:54  
I would agee with Aces, but I don't think you should put this off. The sooner the better. Hal



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Aces

10-13-2005 08:20:54




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 Re: tractor under water in reply to Treg, 10-13-2005 07:47:54  
Treg That would be some job. Would need to drain every thing. Clean carb, starter, generater, distributer, switch box. I would remove spark plugs and trun it over to blow the water out, then put some oil in cylinder to stop rust, put in new oil and not run it long and change. Just some points.



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RustyFarmall

10-13-2005 09:28:01




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 Re: tractor under water in reply to Aces, 10-13-2005 08:20:54  
I agree, and don't put it off, do it now.



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Kelvin

10-13-2005 09:46:35




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 Re: tractor under water in reply to RustyFarmall, 10-13-2005 09:28:01  
And don't forget the air cleaner, radiator, fuel tank transmission hydraulics (if present) and final drives have had the water treatment too.



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730 virgil

10-14-2005 10:53:32




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 Re: tractor under water in reply to Kelvin, 10-13-2005 09:46:35  
i worked in a quarry where the dike broke and let a creek come in we had a bunch of stuff full of muddy flood water overhauled 4 engines after we flushed everthing diesel fuel we should have tore everthing done first would have saved the time and mess



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