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Bruincody

08-15-2005 06:11:13




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This tractor was changed to 12 volt. It has a dist. I have two problems, how do you tell if it is a negetive or positive ground, the battery cables are missing, i am trying to put it back together. There is a red cable from starter to push type starter buttom. also it is missing breaker cover, gasket, and felt washer in the dist. Do I need these to make it run? any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thank you

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FRANK

08-15-2005 10:53:14




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 Re: farmall super M in reply to Bruincody, 08-15-2005 06:11:13  

I TOO AM RESTORING A SM AND PLANNING ON CONVERTING TO AN ALTERNATER.DO I JUST WIRE LIGHTS, SWITCH, ETC. NORMALLY AND THEN JUST HOOK THE POS. SIDE OF BATTERY TO GROUND AND NEG. TO THE STARTER? THANKS, FRANK



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John M

08-15-2005 16:01:18




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 Re: farmall super M in reply to FRANK, 08-15-2005 10:53:14  
Not with an alternator,it would be negative ground. If you have hooked it up posistive ground,you probably fried the alternator.



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Bob M

08-15-2005 06:46:50




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 Re: farmall super M in reply to Bruincody, 08-15-2005 06:11:13  
Like Rusty says if your SM has an alternator is WILL be negative ground.

However if it has a generator grounding could be either positive or negative, depending on the whim of the person doing the conversion.

To verify polarity with a generator only (don't do this with an alternator!), hook up a battery with the positive post to the grounded cable. Then turn on the lights or the ignition switch (don't start the engine) and observe the ammeter. If it indicates DISCHARGE, the tractor is wired for POSITIVE ground - leave the battery connected as is. But if the ammeter indicates charge it's wired for negative ground - reverse the battery cables.

Once that's done, good idea to polarize the generator before the first start (momentarily connect the BAT and ARM terminals at the generator).

The distributor will work fine without the breaker cover piece and felt washer inside the distributor. It's only function is to keep dust, etc from getting into the breaker and centrifugal advance mechanism. So unless you work the tractor in dusty or wet conditions you can get by without 'em.

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RustyFarmall

08-15-2005 06:24:27




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 Re: farmall super M in reply to Bruincody, 08-15-2005 06:11:13  
If the tractor is equipped with an alternator it will be negative ground. If you have a generator it could be either way, but most likely would still be neg. ground. If you are starting from scratch on the wiring you can go either way, but remember that an alternator has to be negative ground. The distributor parts are required, check with your Case-IH dealer first, or go to an automotive parts store such as NAPA.

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