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kraigwy

07-01-2005 10:11:35

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Has anyone ever used a Farmal B with a JD 214T baler, or is it too light. The ground to be hayed is fairly level and the grass isn't too heavy. Also the grass (hay) is dry. Would like to run more then one tractor for this season's haying operation.

Thanks kraid

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Leland

07-01-2005 18:54:02

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to kraigwy, 07-01-2005 10:11:35

Mot6 trying to rock the boat but for a baler an old allis with a hand clutch is hard to beat since these old IH's don't have a live pto you won't get shoved around as much clutching for a big windrow or a snag..

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RAW in IA

07-01-2005 18:42:53

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to kraigwy, 07-01-2005 10:11:35

We used to bale with the C on a 45 McCormick baler once in a while. Loaded on wagons too. Our ground was fairly flat and it worked good, but used 1st gear most of the time I think. The old 45 made it rock a little with each stroke. Didn't hav ethe big flywheel of the 46 and others.

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GGS

07-01-2005 12:22:11

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to kraigwy, 07-01-2005 10:11:35

We tried it on an old ford baler and it worked. Although it wasn't nothing to brag about but it did do it. if the grass is light on a scale of 10 i'll say a 6 and no better. No pun intended but an H would be better????

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Andy Martin

07-01-2005 12:19:18

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to kraigwy, 07-01-2005 10:11:35

An H is certainly big enough.

Like others have said, an A, B, and C are a little small.

BUT, it costs nothing to try unless you are looking at buying the tractor.

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John A.

07-01-2005 12:02:42

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to kraigwy, 07-01-2005 10:11:35

Kraigwy, I realise that the baler you mention is probably a PTO driven on. However here in Texas I never saw a PYO driven one till is had graduated from High School. Had seen pics of them in JD and New Holland broshures. A, B Farmall would handle an engine driven baler just fine. Providing you had one.
Later,
John A.

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Iowa Jim

07-01-2005 11:48:30

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to kraigwy, 07-01-2005 10:11:35

We use our 1940 B for raking and shuttling wagons. Not enough there to run a baler, but it is a nice raking rig, especially with the extra wide hitch.

Jim

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07-01-2005 11:08:28

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to kraigwy, 07-01-2005 10:11:35

I ran a McCormick #45 baler for many years and most recently a Ford 532 with a C which has the same engine as the B. Growing up we baled about 60 acres per year with the C and/or an 8N Ford since these were the only tractors we had. Slow going, but we got the job done. Small windrows and 1st gear taking it slow. This year was the first year I had anything bigger to bale with - a Ford 5000. I don't want to go back to the smaller tractors on the baler. The 5000 will bale all I can shove into it in 3rd gear and never grunt. I do believe the B is some lighter than the C so that would be a factor as well though. The engine will run it, but it will be all it wants. I remember the owners manual on the 45 baler recommending a tractor the size of a Super C or larger. I would say a Super C would have all it wants in first gear.

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kraigWy

07-01-2005 11:03:04

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to kraigwy, 07-01-2005 10:11:35

Thanks guys, I was afraid of that answer but it was expected. My rake is a 3 pt/pto operated so its out too. As is my cycle bar mower.

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old

07-01-2005 10:52:18

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to kraigwy, 07-01-2005 10:11:35

I had a B a few years ago and also a JD-14T and the B would move the baler or run the baler but not both, just not enough tractor to do it. Now if the baler has its own engine you can but thats the only way. And even then it will work the poor little B to death. The B make one heck of a rake tractor, used one for that for around 10 years till I traded it in on a big round baler.

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Nat

07-01-2005 10:44:11

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to kraigwy, 07-01-2005 10:11:35

If all you're doing is baling, and not towing a wagon, you've got nothing to lose by trying it out. I have a feeling the little B will have all it wants to do to run the baler if it's a PTO type. If the baler has its own engine, and you're on reasonably level ground, there's no reason why you couldn't pull a small wagon too.

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Brian in NY

07-01-2005 10:45:57

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to Nat, 07-01-2005 10:44:11

You won't want to be in anything over 2nd gear, and even then the little girl will be working hard. The B would be better suited to wagon shuttle duty or maybe raking.

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Ken Koch

07-01-2005 20:16:10

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to Brian in NY, 07-01-2005 10:45:57

You may have seen this picture I posted a couple of years ago. The MD had a problem with the M&W hand clutch and I had a mower on the H so we put the A on the baler. We put over 100 bales on the wagon load and a good size hill in the hay field also. On the last round Jeff had to steer the A with the brakes going up the hill but the engine just keep it's speed up and walked right up the hill. We do have 3-1/8" pistons in our A. (I hope this picture works!)

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Ramon from NC

07-02-2005 13:23:41

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to Ken Koch, 07-01-2005 20:16:10

Ken What kind of Baler are you pulling in the picture? Thanks Ramon

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Bill from wisc

07-03-2005 07:08:17

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to Ramon from NC, 07-02-2005 13:23:41

The baler in that picture is a case

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Ken Koch

07-03-2005 21:55:34

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Re: Farmall B and baling hay in reply to Bill from wisc, 07-03-2005 07:08:17

Ramon, yes the baler is a Case model 230. It works good. I made a few adjustments to the knoters last summer and now it almost never miss-ties a bale. The feed system is kind of noisy, especially if there is no or very little hay being feed into the baler but works ok.

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