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Mark

12-09-1999 06:30:06




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My father and I are considering purchasing a 706 (Farmall) gas over a diesel. Dad seems to remember the 706 diesel being difficult to start... even in warm weather (the 806 not as bad). We don't expect to put a whole lot of hours on it in a year (nor worked too hard) and it may very well end up being a restoration project in later years. Need advice! Is a 706 gas worth purchasing... dispite the fact that a 70hp gas tractor probably sucks fuel? What about estimated price? Thanks.

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J. Sawyer Farms.

02-17-2008 17:22:40




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 Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Mark, 12-09-1999 06:30:06  
well hears the thing, every diesel will be hard starting. I have a farmall 706 diesel with the d282, and just had it overhauled and it starts fine! the one thing i did do to it was put a altnartor & 2 12 volt batteries on it. having good glow plugs & good timing on fuel helps alot!!! no glow..... .NO START!!! If you have a choice when buying, if you find a 706 with the german d310 engine you got it made!! Don't get me wrong the d282 is a great engine!!! the c263's & the c291 gas engine were great engine if like burning gasoline like crazy(guzzlers) as they used to be called.

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sjk

12-15-1999 14:20:26




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 Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Mark, 12-09-1999 06:30:06  
I have a 706 with the 282 and I've heard all sorts of bad things. about them. I bought the tractor at an auction for 3,200 dollars. It has a wide front and came with new tires. This is not a bad price, but concidering the money I've put in it's a expensive tractor now. I did some engine work on it and I don't have a hard time starting it. People need to check timing usually the static time is off. have good glow plugs, batteries and a good starter, and plug her in when it gets cold. I also have a 560 gas with a 263 I really like this tractor. I just got done overhauling the engie in it and now I'am fixing the hydraulics. The 263 in the 560 or the early 706 was a good engine they like their gas, but are a responsive engine and smooth running. My neighbor has a 706 gas and she'll drink a good 4 gallon an hour when pulling hard, not anny different for my 560. I guess all I can say is how much will you use the tractor If not a lot or if it will do a lot of ideling then I'd use a gas But If you want to do a lot a field work a diesel is more practicle. I have no experience with the 310 german, but I heard they run good. I 706 can range any where for 2500 to 5000 all depending on the condition of the tractor. A wide front, narrow front, diesel or gas. I hope I have helped.

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Mark

12-15-1999 16:41:35




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 Re: Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to sjk, 12-15-1999 14:20:26  
sjk: Thanks for the info.! I was hoping to hear about the performance of a 706 gas. There are very few 706's in our area from what I have found and there are fewer diesels (and a Wheatland is not really an option). In order to get the hp from a reasonably priced tractor we may need to go to a gas in the end. We shall see. Thanks again, much appreciated!!



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Mark

12-14-1999 06:28:06




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 Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Mark, 12-09-1999 06:30:06  
Thanks for imput and information! All that remains to be seen, is as to whether or not we can even find a diesel 706... we already know where there is a gas one. There does not seem to be all that many around this part of the country. Either that, or they are still being extensively used. If you know of a good used one in Southern, Ontario (CAN) hey, let me know...
Thanks! mark.



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Collins Duke

12-12-1999 16:54:41




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 Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Mark, 12-09-1999 06:30:06  
The 706 D with a D-282 in it was indeed hard to start, but iffen you keep a good set of glow plugs in it and change the twin 6 volt batterys over to a big 4-D or 8-D battery,(you will hafta make you a battery box for this) you should have no trouble starting it. However, check the tractor, some of the later model 706's had a German D-310 motor in them, iffen this tractor has this motor it is a breeze to start, Collins Duke Okeechobee, Florida

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Jen

12-09-1999 22:15:39




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 Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Mark, 12-09-1999 06:30:06  
This was the first tractor that my father ever bought and he loves the stupid thing. It will stay on the farm forever im sure. Personally, i dont like shifting the thing, but other than that its ok, i guess. Have fun with it and good luck.



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Rich

12-09-1999 21:37:55




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 Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Mark, 12-09-1999 06:30:06  
Mark

I currently run a 706 with the german diesel in it. I'm not looking for an argument by any means but I would have to say that tractor is by no means hard to get started in the winter time. At least for me it hasn't. I would highly recommend the diesel for two reasons.

Reason 1: Longer life. The one I run now has over 7000 original hours on it and has never had the valve cover off. NOt so sure about the pump but I really don't remember dad talking about anything ever being done to the engine. The TA or Tranny shift mechanisms..... .....Another story that we are NOT going to get into yet.

Reason 2: Now if I heard dad correctly and he read correctly..... ...According to the red power magazine there was only one year that IHC released the diesel in the 706 and that was the only year that they made the 706. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure that's what pop said. Anyways..... ....If you want something that's going to end up as a restoration project this one would be definitely more valuable.

My .02
Rich

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Collins Duke

12-12-1999 17:28:48




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 Re: Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Rich, 12-09-1999 21:37:55  
The 706's with the D-310 German motor in it were the later years models. Iffen you own one you are one lucky dog, the D-310 motor is like the bunny on TV, it just keeps on going and going, i have a 686 farmall with the D-310 in it and I love it it has over 15 thousand hours on it and runs like a top, Yhe earlier 706_D's had the d-282 in them.
Collins



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FM

12-11-1999 19:55:16




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 Re: Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Rich, 12-09-1999 21:37:55  
is your tranny problems in the linkage from the shifter the the tranny? If so i have heard you can take an assembly out of a boneyard 756 and put in and have all your troubles gone....



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SDman

12-10-1999 23:21:27




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 Re: Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Rich, 12-09-1999 21:37:55  
Rich, I think you misunderstood the years of 706 diesels. 706s were built from 1963-1967 & diesels were available all these years. However, 2 different engines were used. When the 706 came out in '63, the diesel was a D-282, which was the same engine as a 560, just speeded up for more HP. This engine had glow plugs, precombustion chambers, etc. Then in late 65-early 66 the diesel was changed to a D-310 German Diesel, which was a direct-injected engine & was used till the end of 706 production(was also used in the 756, which replaced the 706). The glow plug engine had a reputation for being a hard starter, & usually this was caused by ignorance/poor maitenance. With good glow plugs & batteries, 10W engine oil, block heater, & #1 diesel, they will start at 20-30 below zero with no problems. Our 706 out at the farm will outstart our M, but that's not a fair comparison since the ol' M is pretty tired anymore.

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Ed

12-09-1999 19:24:00




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 Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Mark, 12-09-1999 06:30:06  
Don't do it you'll be sorry.

Not one of IH's bettet models.



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Fm

12-09-1999 18:23:59




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 Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Mark, 12-09-1999 06:30:06  
Personally, I would buy a Deseil over a gas anyday. btu if you go deisel, make sure it is a german deisel. the gassers were gas hogs.



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Wayne

12-09-1999 15:40:38




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 Re: advice on Farmall 706... in reply to Mark, 12-09-1999 06:30:06  

$2500- 3500 maybe a little less at an auction. Most of these had the fast hitch instead of the 3 point.



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