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1939 M Farmall?

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JD Farmall

11-25-2004 10:04:46




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I found an old m that has a little starting tank on it, looks factory. I heard somewhere that the 39s had it. I havent checked serial number, the tag is missing. Its on rubber with a super m grille. Could this be a 39. Are there any ways to tell and any other ways to get a serial number?
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CNKS

11-25-2004 18:09:23




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 Re: 1939 M Farmall? in reply to JD Farmall, 11-25-2004 10:04:46  
Hard to say -- IH built kerosene/distillate tractors into the 50's, but most were produced from 1939 thru the end of WWII. If it is a 39 or and early 40, the transmission cover will have a depression or slot behind the seat, some people call them "slot tops" -- Later ones are completely flat. If it is a later model the serial tag is on the left side of the transmission housing. Casting codes were mentioned, not all of the castings would have been replaced. If you find several that have the same letter code, then you can tell the year. All castings should have a code on them.

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CNKS

11-25-2004 18:14:48




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 Re: 1939 M Farmall? in reply to CNKS, 11-25-2004 18:09:23  
I didn't notice the part about the Super M grille -- If it has a Super M engine, the engine will say C 264 toward the rear on the right side, don't think the M engine has that type of marking.



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rustyfarmall

11-25-2004 16:26:49




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 Re: 1939 M Farmall? in reply to JD Farmall, 11-25-2004 10:04:46  
If it truly is a 39 there might not be a tag, instead, the serial number will be stamped into the top of the frame rail. Don't remember which side. Another way to tell is by the casting codes. Should be a code cast onto virtually all of the cast parts, transmission case, axle housings, etc. The code will look like 5*24*I. 5 being the month,24 the day, and I the year, in this case 1939. J will be 1940, K 1941, etc. Not all letters were used, so it does become a mystery at times. If you find the code, post back here, and someone will be able to decode it.

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Brown Dirt Cowboy

11-25-2004 17:54:21




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 Re: 1939 M Farmall? in reply to rustyfarmall, 11-25-2004 16:26:49  
That serial# is on the right frame rail near the front. My '39M is ser.#1094. Later. Tom



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randy hall

11-25-2004 15:24:55




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 Re: 1939 M Farmall? in reply to JD Farmall, 11-25-2004 10:04:46  
your tractor could very well be a super m. the low compression engine was available thru the 450's.



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dej(JED)

11-25-2004 15:18:06




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 Re: 1939 M Farmall? in reply to JD Farmall, 11-25-2004 10:04:46  
You can't really go by casting numbers either.
Many of these tractors have been repaired with parts and even whole sections from donors. I have seen gasoline Ms with MD serial tags. The small tank is an indication of an older tractor. The 39 had a recession in the middle of the deck plate. The motor would be the 247ci engine. The radiator should have shutters and the manifold should have an adjustable flapper. Good luck in your quest.

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Robert in NC

11-25-2004 13:48:10




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 Re: 1939 M Farmall? in reply to JD Farmall, 11-25-2004 10:04:46  
I would start by looking for casting codes. Casting codes can be found all over the tractor and should look something like N-21-4. What you want to look for is the letter that the casting code has in it. For example, if you have a tractor with the code N, it was made in 1944. You can find for codes for tractors on this website under the Tractor registry and other areas. As far as your small tank, that sounds like a duel fuel tractor. IH and many other companies offered tractors that would burn different fuels. You see the tractor would be started on Gas from the small tank you described and when it got hot could be switched over to diesel, kero or distilant. These fuels were cheaper than gas and helped farmers of the day. Hope this helps.

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