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Chuck Pratt

08-29-2004 13:30:00

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Hope someone can help, Just purchased a Mod# I-2405-B Ser. # 2230142J203637*

This Tractor has International on it's hood.
suppossedly a 1976 "Industrial Tractor" special ordered for the FAA. It is yellow and white in color. I dont know its horsepower but it is a 4 cylinder, gas. I was stuck and only one wheel was turning, no posi-trac?, limited slip?
runs rough, missing parts on the 3 point hitch and needs the ROPs reinstalled. I will work on those problems as I go.. I was hoping someone might help me learn what I can from the serial number. We are located in Alaska.

Thank-you for your help,
Chuck Pratt

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Milton

09-02-2004 08:19:02

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Re: Industrial tractor? / I-2405B in reply to Chuck Pratt, 08-29-2004 13:30:00

Good Morning Chuck, --- 2 / Sepy. / 2004 ---

Your International "I-2405B" SERIAL NUMBER "2230142J203637*" is a KIND and CODE Serial Number and would read as;

Kind '223'
Code '0142' 'J' country that it was made 'Japan' Serial Number '203637*' --- 1976 (??)

Motor should be a 'C 179 (G)' 4 cylinders

And it is an Industrail tractor.

Milton

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chuck pratt

09-10-2004 11:45:04

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Re: Industrial tractor? / I-2405B in reply to Milton, 09-02-2004 08:19:02

Thanks Milton, The ID on the engine is my next trick..I have new plug wires for it...but need proper engine id to get more tune up parts...I got the 3 point working and all parts replaced..

Chuck...winter is coming soon...if you live in Alaska , now is the time to get it up on a pallet and under roof..snow is coming...

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chuck pratt

09-24-2004 20:43:51

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Re: Industrial tractor? / I-2405B in reply to chuck pratt, 09-10-2004 11:45:04

ok folks, here is where it gets interesting...I have searched my tractor 3 times for a engine number such as C-123...no go...I found some numbers but they are as follows..

57CT2U009454

and

405B56R1

Can anyone help me decipher these numbers and are they useable in determining what parts to buy..my parts supplier will not sell tune-up parts without a engine number..but he is looking for the C-123 type of engine number.

Thank-You for any help you can provide

Chuck Pratt

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chuck pratt

09-28-2004 12:47:55

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Re: Industrial tractor? / I-2405B in reply to chuck pratt, 09-24-2004 20:43:51

I think we have a winner...
for folks with idustrial tractors, if you live in the Pacific Northwest, the folks at Modern Machinery in Kent Wash. gave me the following data...a C-157 engine is a Delco Remy job and includes the following part numbers..
Coil..... ....1115202 Delco
Distributor...1112477 Delco
Cap..... .....1960833 Delco
Rotor..... ...1954566 Delco
Points..... ..800537 Delco
Condensor.....1928111 Delco
Seems that Modern Machinery only handle Industrial International parts, good connection
1-800-669-2425
I would like to say Thank-You to all the folks on this server that have helped me...I will let you all know later, whether or not all these parts made 'er run better.

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1566 Jim

08-29-2004 18:49:51

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to Chuck Pratt, 08-29-2004 13:30:00

Chuck depending on when built it has either a c157 or c175 gas engine. It is same as a 2400B loader tractor - just used different numbers on end depending on trans and hyd pump gpm -- 2400b, 2405b,2410b and 2412b.

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chuck pratt

08-29-2004 18:53:25

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to 1566 Jim, 08-29-2004 18:49:51

Jim, Thanks I have seen a reference to a 2400B loader in my book....I will start trackin..thanks for the direction..

Chuck Pratt

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cowgirl

11-15-2005 14:24:41

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to chuck pratt, 08-29-2004 18:53:25

Chuck, Been reading your communication on this forum regarding your I-2405B and I have the same tractor. Apparently the Industrial portion of the IH company was sold to Dresser/Kumatso America. I too was not able to ID my tractor engine by it's model serial number. I have a loader (no numbers)but no backhoe attachment. Would love to get my hands on one for it though. I am in need of an engine rebuild as the blow-by is spewing oil when I put the PTO under pressure big time. I must ID this engine before I can go ahead and order my rebuild parts. Had a small problem when the loader sprung a leak but was just a seal in the control box and a piece of cake to fix. Loader is up and running again. I really like this tractor for it's ease of use, even for me. I'm trying to use this tractor with a case round baler and except for the engine problem I think it will work great. It is rather low to the ground but a skid plate was added to the lower body so that hay would not get caught and drag on the under carriage. Although this Industrial tractor was never intended to be used in an agricultural enviroment, it is possible. Have you finished your tune-up on this tractor and were you able to ID your engine for your I-2405B tractor? Thanks, CCS in NY

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1566 Jim

08-29-2004 18:19:16

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to Chuck Pratt, 08-29-2004 13:30:00

It is a industrial version of the 2400 backhoe - just did not have loader and backhoe ran several different numbers depending on how was set up. Were built in early 1970"s.

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chuck pratt

08-29-2004 18:50:15

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to 1566 Jim, 08-29-2004 18:19:16

Jim, Thanks for the tip..I will look in my books for 2400 backhoe...this tractor did come with a front loader with bucket and forks. Might you know more...such as horsepower? did these have a posi traction?

Thanks for the help, your the first to know what it is..

Chuck

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Hugh MacKay

08-29-2004 16:16:25

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to Chuck Pratt, 08-29-2004 13:30:00

Chuck: Are you sure this tractor is not a 2504 rather than 2405 as you listed. Just want to clear that one as IH did make a 2504, but I never heard of a 2405. 2504 would also be slightly older being built between 1963 and 1967. It would have 3 point hitch.

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chuck pratt

08-29-2004 18:16:03

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-29-2004 16:16:25

Hugh, Thanks for the fast responce...it is definatly a I2405B...however I will double check tonight...I have the tag...It is supposedly a "custom Industrial"...Can you direct me to how to run down the serial number?...perhaps that will give us some clues...The books I have reference a 2504...but no 2405....a white elephant? The books also reference a 240...I was wondering if that might represent all 2400 series tractors? Another question is that it has a "ballasted coil"? never heard of it..the tractor has a 12 volt battery....

Really appreciate the help,
Chuck

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Hugh MacKay

08-29-2004 21:44:42

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to chuck pratt, 08-29-2004 18:16:03

Chuck: The main reason I questioned the model number was never having heard of a 2405, nor could I find it in any reference material I had. You just raised a good point, that being a possible 2400 or 240. What does the tractor have for an engine? Should be C-123, C-135 0r C-153 cast into block. Engine serial will be stamped on a machined flat surface under number 1 plug.

We need to get this model number right before tractor serial number will help much.

The ballasted coil is one not needing a ballast resistor, it being built right into coil. I have those on two of my tractors.

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chuck pratt

08-30-2004 11:55:05

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-29-2004 21:44:42

Hugh, Thanks for the help. I will check the engine mod# tonight...appreciate the direction on finding it...Jim believes it to be a 2400 tractor/backhoe...I searched all over for a differential lock...not there..I do have dual brakes...My rough running seemed to improve when I adjusted the one lone carb adjustment screw...in tight...although I think I have bad gaskets...The intake manifold sweats water...I think it is a bad gasket between carb and intake..maybe that is why she runs better with a tight carb adjustment...she is suckin air through a bad gasket? Of course there is always the basic tune up, which I will do..We have made progress...Thanks for your help,

BTW when i tightened the screw she quite SuRgInG
so much. I used to have to idle at 1000rpm..I can now approach 600rpm
Chuck

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Hugh MacKay

08-30-2004 18:12:40

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to chuck pratt, 08-30-2004 11:55:05

Chuck: Haven't seen what Jim said yet, but it sounds very reasonable. I do remember the 2400 tractor, never looked at one very close up.

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Novel Idea Guy

08-29-2004 19:05:03

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to chuck pratt, 08-29-2004 18:16:03

BTW, tractors don"t have "posi" or "limited slip" differentials. They have two brake pedals so you can control which wheel spins. Some do have manual differential locks, but on older tractors, it"s normally not even an option.

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Paul in Mich

08-30-2004 07:02:01

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to Novel Idea Guy, 08-29-2004 19:05:03

Novel, I think you'll find that many front end loaders and back hoes did have positraction or some form of the same and a single brake pedal as opposed to dual brake pedals found on tractors. Front end loaders and back hoes may have been called tractors, but in the most liberal of interpretation.

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Chuck Pratt

08-30-2004 14:43:08

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Re: Industrial tractor? in reply to Paul in Mich, 08-30-2004 07:02:01

Thanks Paul and Novel, The 2405B does in fact have a dual brake set-up...I agree Paul this is a utility tractor and doesnt look or act much like a farm tractor...it did come with a partial 3 point I am assembling and a front end loader...but it sure seems to lack the "guts" / power of a farm tractor..alas it is what I have and will work to make it as best as possible. The ROPs cage seems utility, but handy as I live on a mountain in Alaska. I was wondering if the "sweating" of the intake manifold was normal for a 4 cyl. updraft carb?

Thank-You,
Chuck

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