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sediment bowl assembly (on Farmall M)

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William Ransom

06-11-2004 11:55:41




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I don't have a magnet I could use in the gas tank to pick up rust flakes, but I did try holding a magnet against the sediment bowl assembly (the part that screws into the gas tank), and that didn't seem to have any effect on whatever is blocking it. No matter where I put the magnet, there was still only a trickle of gas coming out at the carburetor end of the gas line (the valve was open all the way).

I haven't been able to get the part that screws into the gas tank to turn. Do you think it would be a good idea to use vise-grips on it?

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49 Cubber!

06-12-2004 08:17:26




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 Re: sediment bowl assembly (on Farmall M) in reply to William Ransom, 06-11-2004 11:55:41  
I think youll be fine with the vise grips.I think your most obvious problem has been overlooked,you hvae a badly rusted tank.You need to finds another tank or have yours profesionally cleaned and coated on the inside.Replacing the sediment bowl wont solve your rust problem.



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gene b

06-11-2004 19:44:56




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 Re: sediment bowl assembly (on Farmall M) in reply to William Ransom, 06-11-2004 11:55:41  
Have you removed the bowl and blowed any compressed air back thru. Just mite fix the problem.



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William Ransom

06-12-2004 07:55:09




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 Re: Re: sediment bowl assembly (on Farmall M) in reply to gene b, 06-11-2004 19:44:56  
I tried that once when I had the tank off the tractor. The air went through it all right, but it got blocked again the next time the tractor ran. (It seems to only get plugged up when the engine is running.)



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gene b

06-12-2004 10:44:37




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 Re: Re: Re: sediment bowl assembly (on Farmall M) in reply to William Ransom, 06-12-2004 07:55:09  
This is what i have done on a couple. Remove the sediment bowl assy and replace with a hose fitting and run rubber fuel hose to a see thru in-line filter then hose to the carb. The FRAM se-thru in-line are only couple bucks and easy to change and sooner or later junk will be in the filter. They are easy to change.



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Wayne Swenson

06-11-2004 16:51:49




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 Re: sediment bowl assembly (on Farmall M) in reply to William Ransom, 06-11-2004 11:55:41  
When you get the sediment bowl unscrewed from the tank, make a small groove around the nipple (stem) that extends into the tank with a hacksaw or file. Shape a screen filter about the size of your little finger from an old unused window screen (metal mesh) and place over the nipple, securing it with some (you guessed it) baling wire. The mesh should extend above the nipple an inch or so.
This will keep any larger size floating debris from getting into the sediment bowl.
Cleaning the tank is best, but this method will get you by until such time as a complete job can be accomplished.

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Geoff NY

06-11-2004 14:52:28




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 Re: sediment bowl assembly (on Farmall M) in reply to William Ransom, 06-11-2004 11:55:41  
I've been the "bandaid route" with these old gals, and I would rather take the tank out and clean it with somthing to loosen the scale. Then clean with solvent, then seal the tank. Put in a new valve and move onto the next problem area. Ain't these old Farmalls fun? LOL Geoff



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Tom W

06-11-2004 12:31:59




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 Re: sediment bowl assembly (on Farmall M) in reply to William Ransom, 06-11-2004 11:55:41  
the gas sediment bowl has a stem that sticks up into the gas tank. The only way to clean it is to unscrew it. The will get plugged up with dirt. You can get a new one at the IH dealer or tractor supply and they are not expensive. I would get the new one before you took the old one out. Also make sure you have a friend handy to stick his finger in the hole while you switch hands to get the new one in. Gas is going to fly;. been there, done that

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William Ransom

06-11-2004 12:48:33




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 Re: Re: sediment bowl assembly (on Farmall M) in reply to Tom W, 06-11-2004 12:31:59  
I can drain the gas out of it if I pump air into the carburetor end of the gas line with a tire pump; the problem is that it always gets blocked again, even if I take the gas tank off and turn it upside down to dump everything loose out of it, so I think whatever blocks it might stay in the stem of the sediment bowl and just move so the gas can get past it. Could the baffles keep whatever blocks it from coming out?

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Dave in CT

06-11-2004 14:19:26




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 Re: Re: Re: sediment bowl assembly (on Farmall M) in reply to William Ransom, 06-11-2004 12:48:33  
I'm assuming because you were talking about baffles you were trying to respond to my post. I don't know about baffles - I don't have any in my H gas tank. Can you see the outlet port, the port that gas flows down to go into the shutoff valve/sediment bowl assembly, if you shine a flashlight down the gastank filler hole? If so you might be able to see if the blockage is being carried away by flushing or the air blowback/let it run treatment. It's sounding more and more like you're going to have to bite the bullet, get a new valve/bowl assembly and try to unscrew the one's that's getting blocked. I guess you could just locate a place that has a new one in stock so you'll have someplace to go if you wreck the old one. I would think, once you get the old one off, you ought to be able to flush out whatever the blockage is but this is just my 2 cents. Let us know what the fix turns out to be.

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Dave in CT

06-11-2004 12:11:03




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 Re: sediment bowl assembly (on Farmall M) in reply to William Ransom, 06-11-2004 11:55:41  
Well, like Nebraska Cowman said, the metal is aluminum or pot metal so it can get ruined when you remove it. One reason I didn't remove mine is because I thought I'd wreck it or the port it screws into. I'd try flushing it AND go buy a magnet to get more of those flakes before trying to remove it. All my experience is with an H gas tank, which doesn't have baffles. Nebraska Cowman said there were baffles to the M tank so you may not be able to get at those sections with the magnet. If you take the glass bowl, screen and gasket off the bottom, can you get it to give you a good stream of gas? Does that carry some of the stuff that's blocking it out? If so, repeated flushings couldn't hurt - filter the gas before you put it back in the tank.

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