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Joe

05-12-2004 18:15:25




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Well I finally got to put the 454 to work tonight, started brush hogging the pasture. Everything was going pretty good till going up a hill, the trans made a loud whine and locked up..... pushed the clutch and it sat....both the gear lever and range lever were stuck fast. Pumped the clutch a few more times and got the gear lever to move then it took off backward. Shut it down and looked for something to be bound but found nothing. Fired the tractor back up and it worked great, 3 passes later on the same hill it wined real quick and locked, as soon as I hit the clutch it freed up and kept going forward. Figured that was enuf and headed to the barn, got almost there and it did it again... (on a slight grade). Any ideas?? Thanks!

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JB

05-12-2004 20:37:06




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 Re: IH 454 problems in reply to Joe, 05-12-2004 18:15:25  
Hi, is it just the clutch slipping when it gets hot? Is your clutch adjusted properly, about 3/4" of free travel?

To test the clutch, while travelling on a road in 4th high range and about 1/2 throttle, apply both brakes hard and it should drag down the engine but if the engine RPM remains constant and the tractor stops then then clutch is slipping.

WARNING BEFORE YOU DO THIS TEST MAKE CERTIAN THAT YOUR BRAKES ARE BRAKING BOTH WHEELS EVENLY OR IT WILL SWING THE FRONT END OF THE TRACTOR IN THE DIRECTION OF THE BEST BRAKE AND THIS CAN BE DANGEROUS AT HIGH SPEED.

If you do have to change the clutch put in the 6 paddle heavy duty clutch from a 684. The 454D only has a 2 paddle clutch and is not sufficient.

Good luck
JB

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Joe

05-13-2004 04:13:42




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 Re: Re: IH 454 problems in reply to JB, 05-12-2004 20:37:06  
I've got the gas version with the C157, the clutch seems to be holding good. When it acted up the first time I could hold the clutch in and it would run, start to let the clutch out and it would stall (almost like testing it by power braking). The only other thing the tractor did out of normal was it would make a bit of a schreech when depressing the clutch during shifting. But it didn't do it all the time. Started when the tractor stalled while mowing (wire came loose off fuel pump). I parked it to see if anything was bound and saw nothing. Fired it back up again and everything was fine. Went back out after dinner and it started to schreech while shifting or just depressing the clutch after mowing for a while. But then a few passes later it stopped making any noise and worked perfectly....

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JB

05-13-2004 15:22:56




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 Re: Re: Re: IH 454 problems in reply to Joe, 05-13-2004 04:13:42  
Hi Joe, maybe the screetching is the clutch release bearing? Sometimes the clutch return spring breaks and it does not lift the clutch pedal up to move the release bearing away from the pressure plate fingers and this causes the release bearing to turn constantly and wear out. If you do an archive search on clanger you will find a picture of the clutch return spring.

The test for the sqealing release bearing is with tractor in neutral and parking brake set and engine running at low idle, gentle press the clutch down with your hand until resistance is felt. This will engage the release bearing to the fingers on the pressure plate and if squealing is detected then it is the release bearing. If the clutch return spring is not broken there should be about 3/4" of free clutch pedal movement before the release bearing makes contact with the pressure plate and you can feel that with your hand.
Now to test the pilot bearing, with the same setup as before but this time sitting in the seat as normal, depress the clutch with your foot and go from neutral to low with the high/lo/rev shift lever, if is hard to get into gear(grinding gears) and then squeals after it is in gear then it is most likely the pilot bearing.

There is an inspection plate in the bottom of the torque tube that can be removed to check the release bearing. MAKE SURE ENGINE IS OFF AND PARKING BRAKE SET OR WHEELS BLOCKED BEFORE removing the inspection plate. Older tractor used to have a grease fitting to lube the release bearing but not the 454. You can shine a light in there and spin the release bearing with a long screw driver to see if it turns freely.

IF it is the release bearing it will eventually wreck the pressure plate fingers. IF it is the pilot bearing eventually you will not be able to change gears without shutting engine off and eventually it will sieze completely and you will not be able to stop tractor by depressing the clutch as the transmission drive shaft will not stop turning.

BECAREFUL and lets us know the solution
JB

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