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B crankshaft pulley removal

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Kenneth

01-24-2004 16:58:36




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I am trying to get the crankshaft pulley off of my B and the manual is pretty vauge on how this is done. I removed the setscrew. I was looking at the end of the crank and it looks like the end of the crankshaft has a threaded hole in the end. Is this true? If so what size is the hole and what threads are they. I would like to run a tap in there and clean up the threads if this is how it is set up. Any suggestions or information is appreciated. This is my first go at taking one off.
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Kenneth

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Steve

01-25-2004 13:45:29




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 Re: B crankshaft pulley removal in reply to Kenneth, 01-24-2004 16:58:36  
Having got into these on a few other Farmalls,I'd suggest cutting it off. New ones are fairly cheap. You'll probably break the old one trying to get it off and past experience says it's not worth the effort to try to save it.



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Kenneth

01-25-2004 19:38:34




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 Re: Re: B crankshaft pulley removal in reply to Steve, 01-25-2004 13:45:29  
Steve, After spending the better part of this afternoon bending puller bolts, drilling holes etc. I think I agree with you. I have a couple more ideas and if they dont pan out in a timely manner then the rose bud comes off and the cuttin tip goes on and the pulley off.
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Brad

01-24-2004 20:43:25




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 Re: B crankshaft pulley removal in reply to Kenneth, 01-24-2004 16:58:36  
Go with Big Johns advice! I broke the rims of the pulley on my A by trying to do it without spending any money. I finally had to buy an OTC pulley puller (a really large bearing separator) and a large two-jaw puller because nobody had any for rent or load. It came right off. This set-up is shown in the I&T Shop Manual and is the only way to go. Also, be sure to not ruin the threads ihn the end of the crankshaft as you can use them, a bolt and fender washers to easily pull the pulley back on again. I can't remember the size of the bolt but once you get the pulley off you can easily measure the thread count with a guage from a tap and die set. I got a bolt from Lowes that I used to pull my pulley back on. Getting it off was a bear, getting it back on again was a piece of cake.

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rebuilder

01-24-2004 17:50:39




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 Re: B crankshaft pulley removal in reply to Kenneth, 01-24-2004 16:58:36  
Kenneth;

We have encountered that problem many times on the C-113/123's. I remember some that, even with thpuller installed, we still had to heat red hot with a rosebud to remove. You're best bet would be to see if you can borrow or rent a T-puller and a bearing seperator form a shop in your area.
The bearing seperator goes behind the flanges on the pulley and the T-puller bolts to the seperator. The T-puller shaft "should" fit through the hole in your pulley. There is another way to take these pulleys off without that setup. If you remove the crankshaft and unbolt the front cover from the engine, you can then put the offending pulley in a press to do a more accurate job. Many other like you have had this problem & failed and so you should be able to find a new(aftermarket) pulley somewhere close. I know we sell quite a few at the yard I work at. Good luck.

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BIG JOHN

01-24-2004 17:44:14




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 Re: B crankshaft pulley removal in reply to Kenneth, 01-24-2004 16:58:36  
You will need to get a split bearing puller and a 2 jaw puller. The split bearing puller goes on behind the pully and the 2 jaw puller goes over the split bearing puller with the center screw in the hole in the center of the pully.

You said that you already had the front end off so you are ready to have a go at it. Since this is basically just a press fit it is going to be a tough pull. I have always had to use the act. torch to heat it up. Becarfull not to let it drop on a concrete floor. If it lands on the edge of the pully it is for sure to break it. Another sure way to break it is to try to pull it with out using the split bearing puller.

GOOD LUCK

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GaRY-mISS

01-24-2004 17:25:51




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 Re: B crankshaft pulley removal in reply to Kenneth, 01-24-2004 16:58:36  
i USUALLY DRILL TWO HOLES IN TE PULLEY directly across from each other, out far enough from the center so that I can reach behind with a nut and use a harmonic balancer puller or the like. Use a cap in the end of the crank. I have found a few of them to be threaded. If so, you don't want to ruin the threadsDO NOT try to driv it off with a hammer, chisel, etc. It is guaranteed that it will break and will ruin your day along with yourpocketbook.Good luck.

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RayP(MI)

01-24-2004 18:14:14




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 Re: Re: B crankshaft pulley removal in reply to GaRY-mISS, 01-24-2004 17:25:51  
I agree with Gary. tried to pull mine with a 3 prong puller - no luck. finally resorted to drilling two holes in pulley like Gary said. Used a heavy piece of strap iron with matching holes. Then placed a deep socket from my socket wrench set on end of crankshaft. Used impact wrench on bolts, gently and alternately - just a few taps on each bolt - walked the pulley right off. Oh, jad to grind off flats on one side of nuts, in order to thread on to bolts. Kind of a close fit against shoulder back side of pulley.

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Kenneth

01-24-2004 17:38:02




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 Re: Re: B crankshaft pulley removal in reply to GaRY-mISS, 01-24-2004 17:25:51  
Gary, are you talking about something like a pipe cap?



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old

01-24-2004 17:18:05




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 Re: B crankshaft pulley removal in reply to Kenneth, 01-24-2004 16:58:36  
I can't help you much if any, but when I changed one on a B I had I ended up pulling off the front end of the tractor so it would clear the rad. etc.



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Kenneth

01-24-2004 17:21:54




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 Re: Re: B crankshaft pulley removal in reply to old, 01-24-2004 17:18:05  
Thanks OLD, and I suppose I should have mentioned that I have the complete front off of the tractor, nothing but a motor sticking out, with a pulley on the end I cant get off...



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old

01-24-2004 17:38:04




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 Re: Re: Re: B crankshaft pulley removal in reply to Kenneth, 01-24-2004 17:21:54  
I guess I was lucky there sort of my pulley was broken so it sort of fell off when I undid the belt



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