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H and 154 oil grade in the winter

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john

10-16-2003 16:31:35




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Now that it is getting a little cold out I was wondering what other guys use for an oil weight in their H's and Cub (154). I have been using SAE 30 in the summer but now I was wondering what everybody uses in the winter? I don't put many hours on them so if I change to SAE 10 I would be draining good oil out. I was thinking 10 W 30 year round but my 154 owners manual says no to 10 W 30. Any ideas?? Thanks!!!

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Moby

10-17-2003 21:19:40




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 Re: H and 154 oil grade in the winter in reply to john, 10-16-2003 16:31:35  
Fisrt let me answer your question. I run 10W-30 in all my tractors. Note: My olderst one is a 47 H and the newest one is a 73 154 LoBoy. How bout that for a match. Anyway, I also have a 53 cub and that is what I run in them all. I think the main reason that all the old manuals say to run only straight 30 non detergent is the fact that if that is all you run and you then change out to a newer oil with the detergent, it can loosen up dirt and possibly clog a gallery. Personally I have never seen this happen, but I believe it could. I run the same oil all year. Here in So. Indiana, it is really hot in the summer and the winters usually have at least one month of really cold. I dont know about your 154, but I have noticed that if I use any thing other than hy-tran in the hyd's, it seems to foam and make the pump cavitate. Hope that helps.

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John

10-17-2003 17:54:41




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 Re: H and 154 oil grade in the winter in reply to john, 10-16-2003 16:31:35  
Thanks guys!!!



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Allan

10-17-2003 05:08:02




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 Re: H and 154 oil grade in the winter in reply to john, 10-16-2003 16:31:35  
Hi Guys,

I know this has absolutely nothing to do with your question, but thought I'd just throw this in just for fun.

First, it always amuses me when I hear people talking about what 'brand' of oil to use in their engine. Note that I said 'brand', here. People want to continue using the same brand of oil in an engine for some strange reason.

I have always maintained that the 'brand' is a total human preference and not an engine requirement. That engine is nothing but a piece of iron and does not have the capability to think or "prefer" a 'brand name'. :>)

Secondly, let me relate this honest of God true story of an event I witnessed back in 1988:

A fella that I worked with had gone fishing up in the wilds of NE Montana from Williston, ND. At 2am on his way back home, he somehow hit a large rock in the roadway and knocked a small hole in his oil pan draining all of the oil out.

When the engine lite on this '86 Ford Tempo came on, he immediately stopped and shut the engine off. He had no oil with him and was at a total loss as what to do.

Since the hole in the pan was about an inch long and not very wide, he took an old rag and stuffed it as tight as he could into the damaged pan.

This is the good part and I swear to you that this is true: He then over-filled (by a couple of quarts) that engine with water!!

He then drove on home which was 78 miles. The next day, he repaired the pan and filled it with oil. That old car was still running, the last I knew.

Moral of the story is this: Engines are rather forgiving when it comes to oil. As long as it has something relatively "fluid" to lube with, it really doesn't matter all that much what brand or what weight is there; it is going to lube as it should.

My 2 cents,

Allan

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Steve - IN

10-16-2003 16:56:47




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 Re: H and 154 oil grade in the winter in reply to john, 10-16-2003 16:31:35  
john,

Are you going to use the tractor in the winter? If so, I'd go to a multi-weight; like 10-30. It will be a whole lot easier to start, and will get lubed faster when it's cold with the lighter weight oil.

My old manuals also recommend straight 10w below 32F. I'm using a mutli weight, and haven't seen anything blow up yet. My guess is that polymer technology (the things that give the oil more viscosity when it's warm) weren't well advanced then; just like the polymers used to make plastic were primitive then compared to what we enjoy now.

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