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Bill

10-05-2003 19:39:11




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I put a eginge on my M, Got it running,but it pops out the carb.I was thinking stuck valve.took off cover,all valves are moving.Valves set at 017 hot,can I set them cold? I line up pointer and mark on pully set valves on #1 cyl.what do i do for #2-3-4 ?

Or could it be something else making it pop.

thainks for helping Bill




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Jon

10-06-2003 18:57:46




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 Re: poping M in reply to Bill, 10-05-2003 19:39:11  
Your manifold is probably worped.The same thing happend to my friends tractor and he took his manifold to a machine shop were they shaved it until it was flat.good luck



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TimC

10-06-2003 12:31:32




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 Re: poping M in reply to Bill, 10-05-2003 19:39:11  
Spray some wd 40 in dist cap and see if it was cross firing.



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Dan

10-06-2003 06:22:49




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 Re: poping M in reply to Bill, 10-05-2003 19:39:11  
After I got my SMTA runing it just didn't run right. Flooded on starting and all. Rebuilt the carb about 6 times and finally realized I was getting air pushed out of the intake. Someone here mentioned the cam shaft. Sure enough the end of the camshaft had chipped next to the keyway allowing the drive gear to slop around and throw it out of time. A possibility if the other things people have mentioned don't work. Especially if this engine has had a live hydraulic pump on it.

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Allan

10-06-2003 03:52:47




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 Re: poping M in reply to Bill, 10-05-2003 19:39:11  
Hi Bill,

Like everyone else has stated, that popping can only be caused by something related to the timing on the intake cycle.

A cylinder is firing with its' intake valve open for some reason, allowing the resultant explosion an avenue back to the carb.

Are you sure you have the firing order correctly wired? Weak valve spring? Flat cam? Tracks or moisture in the Cap? Rotor?

Just some ideas,

Allan

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Steve - IN

10-05-2003 22:17:28




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 Re: poping M in reply to Bill, 10-05-2003 19:39:11  
Bill,

I think you're on the right track. Popping out the carb is probably a timing problem of some sort. An intake valve is closing too late, or a spark plug is firing too early. If it only does it occassionally and randomly, it could be a wobble in the distributor shaft, short in the primary side, arc in the distributor cap, etc.

If you set the valves cold, try for around .022 cold (which should be loose enough to answer the question about an intake valve staying open) then recheck when warm to see if the expanded metal has taken up the slack, or expanded less than expected - and you might find some in either direction. After you've found TDC compression for #1, just follow the firing order - think it's 1-3-4-2 for an M - and turn the crank a half turn, or 180 degrees for each set of valves in sequence of the firing order to be certain you're on the backside of the cam for each valve you adjust.

Good luck in solving the problem.

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Wayne Swenson

10-05-2003 21:25:50




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 Re: poping M in reply to Bill, 10-05-2003 19:39:11  
Rotate the crankshaft 1/2 turn after setting #1 cylinder valves to set the valves on #3 cylinder, 1/2 turn again (the mark will line up for # 4), and another 1/2 turn to do #2.

The "popping" can be due to incorrect fuel mixture or incorrect timing. Check it out & let us know.



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