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sue ebbert

06-25-2003 07:26:05




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Still looking for help on this unit guys,Has anyone seen something like this? Not should if unit was org red the cart its on was blue and the bottom side if the generator box is blue. It has a small tractor motor in it that has a tin like tag that say cont motors but not sure if that wasnt put on there.Because it has a mageno on it ,there is no throttle on it.So the governer much kick in when it is under a load.The motor runs great but we still need to know more on the generator box that mounts to the engine.Its a gas engine,

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Bob M

06-25-2003 07:44:46




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 Re: Still need help is this a cub unit gen-set in reply to sue ebbert, 06-25-2003 07:26:05  
Sue - Can you post side view photos (both sides) of the engine? That'll help us ID the engine.

The tin in the photo you posted below looks like a U-2 power unit, though it's tough to judge the size from the photo. U-2 uses the same engine as the Farmall A/B/C tractors - bigger than a Cub. (Punch below for a shot of a U-2)

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sue ebbert

06-25-2003 08:24:40




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 Re: Re: Still need help is this a cub unit gen-se in reply to Bob M, 06-25-2003 07:44:46  
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sue ebbert

06-25-2003 07:30:44




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 Re: Still need help is this a cub unit gen-set in reply to sue ebbert, 06-25-2003 07:26:05  
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sue ebbert

06-25-2003 07:35:55




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sue ebbert

06-25-2003 08:29:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Still need help is this a cub unit ge in reply to sue ebbert, 06-25-2003 07:35:55  
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darn thing can only send one at a time



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sue ebbert

06-25-2003 08:34:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Still need help is this a cub unit in reply to sue ebbert, 06-25-2003 08:29:27  
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try again



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sue ebbert

06-25-2003 08:31:47




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Bob M

06-25-2003 09:01:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Still need help is this a cub in reply to sue ebbert, 06-25-2003 08:31:47  
Sue - Definitely not a Cub or Farmall A/B/C motor! Looks like a Continental flathead engine - perhaps a Y69(?) - housed in IHC power unit tin. If so it's good for about 10-12 horsepower, or around 5 KW in generator duty.



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sue ebbert

06-25-2003 09:18:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Still need help is this a in reply to Bob M, 06-25-2003 09:01:14  
Oh I thought we had it bob, What is a y69 and how do I find out about these. I need a regualtor for the generator part. Thanks for your help.



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Bob M

06-25-2003 09:59:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Still need help is thi in reply to sue ebbert, 06-25-2003 09:18:46  
Not certain it's a Continental Y69 Sue - just a guess. But it sure LOOKS like a Continental engine, and the Y69 was one of their smaller 4 cylinder flatheads. However there's also an N56, N62, Y91, Y112 and others. (Incidentally the N62 powered the little Allis Chalmers "G" tractors.) All these engines were commonly used as a power unit for balers, small combines, welders, pumps, forklifts, etc. You need to find the name plate (or other unique identifier) to establish exactly what engine that is. Continental still operates under the name Teledyne Wisconsin. Also there's still places around that stock repair parts, manuals, etc. even though the engines have long gone out of production. A

When you ask for a regulator, do you mean for the battery charging generator or the power generator? If the former, it's probably the same 6 volt, 4-terminal regulator used on early 50's era Farmall gas tractors (Cub, A, C, H, M). However the power generator - if it requires regulator - will be tougher. Need ALL the nameplate data off the generator head, and then hope the mfr is still in business or a motor shop can cross to it.

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sue ebbert

06-25-2003 10:18:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Still need help is in reply to Bob M, 06-25-2003 09:59:30  
Thanks bob, My husband has masseys and said it was a cont and the name plate on the motor says so but we thought someone my have put that on there.The reguator is for the power box, the guy said its what tells the thing what to do. Was this a put together unit or is it factory made? why would it have the motor of from one company and the housing unit of another? And did they made generator box units like this yours has a pulley type on it. Only thing that confuses me is the guy said it has 35 amp breakers Would the engine be big enought for this. thanks for all your help sue

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Bob M

06-25-2003 10:54:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Still need hel in reply to sue ebbert, 06-25-2003 10:18:58  
Sue - My suspicion is your generator set was assembled by the generator mfr using an IHC power unit. And in this case the power unit itself was assembled by IHC using a Continental-supplied engine. But I'm just guessing here. Perhaps someone like Guy Fay can provide a more definitive answer.

What you really need to know is WHO manufactured the generator set. Possiblilities include Northeast Electric, US Electric, Delco, Winco, GE, Louis Allis, or any of perhaps dozen others. Gotta be a name plate someplace either on the set or on the generator head.

A pair of 35 amp breakers (on 120 volts) is about right for a 5 KW generator. Would require about 10 HP to run at full load. And that should be well within the capacity of the engine you show in your pix.

Whatever it is you've got there, it's pretty cool!

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sue ebbert

06-26-2003 05:07:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Still need in reply to Bob M, 06-25-2003 10:54:14  
I,d like to say may thanks to you bob, you have started me in the right dir. Found the Serial on Motor # 1Y69-54070 now I can go on from here. Who is Guy Fay?Again thanks and God Bless. Sue



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Bob M

06-26-2003 09:08:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Still in reply to sue ebbert, 06-26-2003 05:07:59  
Sue - Guy Guy is researcher/writer/authority specializing in IHC history/product development. Guy is also a occasional participant on this board. However I'll bet he's in Bloomsburg PA for the "Red Power Roundup" this weekend!

Back to your Continental motor... I believe the Y69 and it's cousins were long the "standard" power for many mfr's small industrial forklifts. If you need engine parts for your gen set suggest inquiring at the parts dept at your local forklift dealer. With data off the engine tag you may be able to obtain parts directly from their stock.

Good luck!!

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