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M wont start!!

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eshoreboy

04-05-2007 14:55:17




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Ok yeasturday i was driving the M and when i had the throttle down relly low she cut out, well i cleened the plugs and got her going again. Today i was driving it and i had the throttle up a little and was goin in 3rd gear and she cut out. I cleened the plugs and eptyped the bottom of the carb. Got iot all back and tryed to start her again and she wouldent. Is it that i have too week of a fire and it cant burn up all the fuel, or is it something else
Thanks for your help

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john d

04-05-2007 18:44:39




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 Re: M wont start!! in reply to eshoreboy, 04-05-2007 14:55:17  
FIRST: Make certain the tractor is in NEUTRAL while you are working on it. We don't want to read about you getting run over when it started unexpectedly!

I'm assuming you have an M with battery ignition and a distributor, not a magneto. If you have a magneto, you'll need advice from someone other than me.

Don't overlook the possibility that the ignition switch is faulty. My M gave me fits until I traced the problem to the 50-year-old switch! It would run fine, then just QUIT. Then it might re-start immediately, or it might choose to wait a while. Use a jumper wire across the terminals on the back of the switch, and see if it will start. (This trick isn't going to work if it's a magneto system.) You should also check the wire going to the switch, and from the switch to the coil, as well as the connections on each end. The wiring on your tractor is very possibly original, and it's probably seen better days.

After that, the usual suspects are points, plugs, condensor, coil, coil wire.

With the tractor in NEUTRAL, pull the coil wire from the distributor cap and either prop, or hold the end of it about 1/4" from a metal part of the tractor. Pull the ignition switch to "on", hit the starter and watch for a blue spark to jump from the coil wire to the tractor. If the spark is kinda red, or weak, replace the points and condensor. If you have a good spark, then repeat with each spark plug wire. If each wire has a good spark, the plugs may be the problem.

If no spark and the switch is good, get into the distributor. Points and condensor aren't expensive; if you haven't replaced them, they might be a good investment.

If you have spark, and the plugs are good, then the problem is typically fuel or compression. Take the fuel line loose at the carb and see if it will flow a steady stream, or if it dwindles and quits after a few seconds. If it slows suddenly or stops, check the screen in the top of the sediment bulb.

Compression is likely not the problem, as those old engines have to be pretty weak before they won't start due to bad compression.

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eshoreboy

04-05-2007 18:22:17




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 Re: M wont start!! in reply to eshoreboy, 04-05-2007 14:55:17  
Its kind weird, at the sale the seller could not get it started, took it home and i came over to look at it and he said it was just a bad swich that he replaced. I bought it, and yeasturday it cut out and then today it cut out i was thinking that it was somethnig electiral that keeps getting worse? And i dont know if it has a 6vt coil or 12vt, its painted over.



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Ole-Mn

04-05-2007 18:14:19




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 Re: M wont start!! in reply to eshoreboy, 04-05-2007 14:55:17  
Check fuel flow and spark. Running 12 volts on 6volt coil? Coil could be over heating.



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eshoreboy

04-05-2007 18:13:21




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 Re: M wont start!! in reply to eshoreboy, 04-05-2007 14:55:17  
it has plenty of gas gettin to the carb. i dont know if it has fire now but it did before, im putting new points,condecer, and cap tomorrow and if that dont wrok goin to try a new coil.



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City-Boy McCoy

04-05-2007 17:52:49




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 Re: M wont start!! in reply to eshoreboy, 04-05-2007 14:55:17  
It does not sound "Ok" to me. We don't know what the problem is with what little you have told us. Do you have good fire at the plugs? Do you have plenty of fuel going into the carb bowl?



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