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Scott Swanson

03-20-2007 09:59:25

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A couple of years ago I needed to have some tractors hauled. I received 20 quotes in about 4 days. Now I need a tractor hauled and only one person replied with 3 dollars a mile.

Where are all the haulers?

Sign of the times or people losing interest in old tractors?

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LBSMJS

03-20-2007 20:51:36

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Scott Swanson, 03-20-2007 09:59:25

I looked at your ad, but I would have to drive 180 miles empty to do it.If it was on the way I would need $125 at least to justify the time to load & unload & the extra time & mi.Just my thoughts.

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Hugh MacKay

03-20-2007 17:37:48

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Scott Swanson, 03-20-2007 09:59:25

Scott: Rusty hit the nail on the head, just no money in it anymore, and they've parked them. I was in the barber shop the other day. We were discussing the amount of trucking equipment sitting idle. In walks a guy that had read an article put out by the Trucker Assoc of North America. It claimed trucks hauled 28% less product in the 3rd quarter of 2006, than any previous quarter in the past ten years. You can see it on the trucking routes, definitely less truck traffic out there.

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Ron in Nebr

03-20-2007 19:40:52

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-20-2007 17:37:48

There's more trucks now going past our place than I ever remember.....'course, 85% of 'em say "Wal Mart" on the side....guess we're on the route between two major distribution centers....

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CNKS

03-20-2007 18:24:08

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-20-2007 17:37:48

Hugh, I think they all came to western Kansas. With all our feedlots and grain moving, etc, there are more trucks on the road than cars. They just pass on the cost -- the cattle eat and have to be moved. Tractor haulers, no.

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Hugh Mackay

03-20-2007 19:02:55

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to CNKS, 03-20-2007 18:24:08

CNKS: Long haul, non perishable products are going back on the rail, and gong at a rate that is hard to imagine. Our railroad container trains used to be loaded with sea going containers only. Every day one is seeing more containers on there with the names of long time long haul trucking companies.

I can remember just 3 years ago, being down by 401, that being the Canadian route heading to the Detriot-Windsor border crossing. There was enough truck traffic in 2 lanes of that highway, both ways. From a half mile away and up high enough to see both sides, it was solid enough it looked like two trains meeting on double track. It was two lanes each way of bumper to bumper truck traffic, and they were running 20' apart at 110 kmph. Cars were not even using that road during the week back then. Today there is ample room for cars and pickups, in fact there is not 1 lane of bumper to bumper truck traffic anymore.

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NDS

03-21-2007 06:56:30

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Hugh Mackay, 03-20-2007 19:02:55

There is no shortage of truck traffic in South East in fact all traffic counts show a steady increase. The ATA says that trucks hanled 70% of all inland US freight in 2006 this inludes rail, barge, pipeline abd air transport. I live on major East West railroad and several container trains come through every day. A few years ago you saw a lot of JB and Schieder trailers on the trains but now they are at least 90% sea going containers and you seldom see a trucking company trailer. The problem with putting freight on trains in South East is that rairoads abandoned a lot of the tracks and are now running at capacity and can not dependably deliver the "just in time" freight that many shippers want.

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Steven@AZ

03-20-2007 17:21:44

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Scott Swanson, 03-20-2007 09:59:25

Short haul quotes around here are $2.50 per loaded mile... A spot on a semi load I've been quoted $0.70 per loaded mile for a long haul.

About 3 years ago I was quoted $2 per loaded mile short haul and $.50 per mile on a semi - full load for something like $1.35 per mile.

Fuel prices have ruined prices for everything!

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NDS

03-20-2007 17:46:30

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Steven@AZ, 03-20-2007 17:21:44

Fuel is a big expense but according to my calculations for a truck that gets 7 MPG (some new Class 8s will get 7 MPG) on $2.75/gal. fuel will cost 39 cents/mile. The same truck running on $1.25 fuel will cost 18 cents mile a difference of 21 cents mile. About like when I had horses farrier would cry about cost of shoes and nails and say he had to go up $5 head on shoeing after 2 or 3 of these $5 increases because of cost of shoes I could buy shoes and nails for onre head for $5.

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georgeky

03-20-2007 11:36:54

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Scott Swanson, 03-20-2007 09:59:25

If it runs and it warms up just drive it the 66 miles then you can add your longest distance drove story. Just a thought.

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Scott Swanson

03-20-2007 11:58:20

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to georgeky, 03-20-2007 11:36:54

I wonder what the fast lane speeders would do with me in the left lane going a full 17 miles an hour in road gear?

It would be fun, expecially without a seat cushion.

My bumper sticker would read:

My back tires are bigger than yours!

Well Officer..... I know I passed the wheel chair rider on the right...please give me a break.

Tractors are fun! Especially when you realize you need to slow down and enjoy the world.

Thanks for the idea!

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the tractor vet

03-20-2007 11:26:53

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Scott Swanson, 03-20-2007 09:59:25

Like everybody said with fuel prices the way they are plus the DOT getting down on people with one tons and trailers and maken them get all the permits that largecars have it is not feesable to owen a one ton and trailer and put up with the B/S that ya have to . we need to get the DOT to get off our donkeys for trucks under ton and a half and for personal use and pleasure . Lateley i have been thinking about getting rid of my Dodge and my gooseneck . Last summer my one buddy was useing it to haul round bales about 10 mile one way and got hasseled by a BOZO DOT cop. If i am going to have to jump thru all the hoops and do the dog and pony act i just might aswell go and buy that 9370 I H that i have been droolen over and get a 48-53 foot step deck . When i was haulen i use to get 1.75 a mile after the first 100 miles if it was under the 100 mile mark then it was a flat 200 bucks .

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NDS

03-20-2007 11:02:13

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Scott Swanson, 03-20-2007 09:59:25

They may not be ablre to haul for less than $3 mile but that is twice the rate that owner operators with a Claas Peterbilt are getting on most freight of course the pros are hoping to get a back haul but quite often thet don't next time you are on Interstate check out the empty flatbeds.

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old

03-20-2007 10:22:35

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Scott Swanson, 03-20-2007 09:59:25

Theres still lots fo hauler out there but the problem is most don't want to do it any more because they have to charge $3 per mile of loose money. With gas prices like they are it cost to much to do much any more. Shoot its even been hard to sell a tractor if the person isn't with in 100 miles or less

Hobby farm

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Rimshot

03-20-2007 10:13:07

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Scott Swanson, 03-20-2007 09:59:25

If you live in Iowa I might be able to do it? Alot less than $3 bucks too.

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Scott Swanson

03-20-2007 10:25:28

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Rimshot, 03-20-2007 10:13:07

The tractor is just West of the Twin Cities in Howard Lake, MN. It needs to be hauled to Lake Elmo, just East of St, Paul. I checked the maps site and it is about 66 miles.

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RustyFarmall

03-20-2007 10:03:32

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Re: Where are all the Tractor Haulers? in reply to Scott Swanson, 03-20-2007 09:59:25

No one can do it for less than 3 dollars a mile, and no one will pay that much, so everyone has just parked the trucks and trailers.

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