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'46 Farmall M Brakes Installation??

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Tis

05-08-2001 08:13:41




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Need help restoring the brakes on a '46 M; purchased the operators, service, and parts manual from Binder Books, however, have never replaced brakes of anything before. Is this job differcult? Is there step by step books or videos?? Will someone provide verbal insturction for brakes replacement? THANKS!!!

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Michael Soldan

05-08-2001 17:49:25




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 Re: '46 Farmall M Brakes Installation?? in reply to Tis, 05-08-2001 08:13:41  
Tis, I just finished the brakes on my H ,same business as an M. If the brakes are not siezed they should pry off with a screwdriver after you remove the 5 bolts. You may need brass bushing for the ends of the brake shaft if they are worn. The Red pretty well summed it up,but I only put one new seal on each side. My I-H dealer told me to install them flush to the housing. I believe a new seal is probably a better seal than the old leather and spring jos that were in there. I had one side siezed and it took us almost 3 hours to get it off by prying, and trying to turn the brake band lever shaft while soaking penetrating oil to it. I was afraid we were never going to get it off but finally it moved. The drums slid off fairly easily, but getting those old seals out was something else...about an hour each. I picked out as much as I could and collapsed the seal toward the centre with a punch,you'll figure it out,be patient and don't damage the bearing house or the spline..it takes time. My I-H dealer gave me a picture of the brake assembly and the list of parts making up all components of the brakes..a nice help! Good luck and we're all here to help if you get stuck..Mike in Exeter,Ontario

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Farmall Paul

05-08-2001 10:24:29




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 Re: '46 Farmall M Brakes Installation?? in reply to Tis, 05-08-2001 08:13:41  
Tis- Watch out for the ASBESTOS dust! I like to spray down the whole assy with a water hose, after I get the cover off. The dust on the gound isn't quite as dangerous. OSHA says wear a dust mask. Sometimes they have good ideas... Paul+



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The Red

05-08-2001 08:52:19




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 Re: '46 Farmall M Brakes Installation?? in reply to Tis, 05-08-2001 08:13:41  
Tis I'll give you typed instructions. I don't feel like hollarun today. :)

Disconnect the brake return spring. Then disconnect the brake rod yoke pin from the brake band lever arm.
Remove the 5 hex head bolts that holds the cover on. If your lucky, it will slide off. Inspect the band and check to see if you have 90W leaking around the drum and hollar back.

If you have a stuck cover, we'll have to walk you through that procedure. Brake removal can be a real pain at times.

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Tis

05-08-2001 09:19:56




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 Re: Re: '46 Farmall M Brakes Installation?? in reply to The Red, 05-08-2001 08:52:19  
The Red, an earlier inspection revealed oil leaking from the brake covers and right shaft seal, however, it will be serveral weeks before I can replace the brakes.



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The Red

05-08-2001 10:18:29




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 Re: Re: Re: '46 Farmall M Brakes Installation?? in reply to Tis, 05-08-2001 09:19:56  
Tis plan on pulling the brake drums and replacing those bull cage seals as they are called. The original seal is a thick assembly with two seals built in. You will want to put in two new thin seals on each side.

I have replaced quite a few seals over the last 10 years on several Hs. Have safety glasses handy. Drill two 3/8 inch holes as close as you can into the seal facing towards the outer edge. The drill bit will go about 1 inch then you will notice it will stop against the seal cage casting. Then pound a chisel into the two holes. I then hit the side of the chisel with the hammer using the outer casting as a fulcrum. When the seal starts prying out at the chisel, I use offset plyers and pry it out. It will more than likely come out in pieces. You can stick the two new seals in as far as you want. You will have some extra depth to play with. If the inner part of the drum, where it rotates in the seal is rough, try to set the seals to avoid the roughest portion.

Hope this is somewhat clear!

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Sven

05-08-2001 08:45:03




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 Re: '46 Farmall M Brakes Installation?? in reply to Tis, 05-08-2001 08:13:41  
I believe the brakes on an M are the band type, and are not too difficult to replace. Takes several hours tough. One thing you may have to consider is replacing the shaft seals. If the brakes are oily or oil is dripping from the brake cover you'll need new shaft seals. Putting new seals in isn't a problem, getting the old ones out takes time and the right tools. Case IH has the seal and brake bands. I'd set aside a whole day for the job. I hope this helps, I re-did the brakes and seals on my W-6 last year.

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