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More $$$ to spend, sigh.

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135 Fan

04-04-2008 17:46:35




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I had a good look at my undercarrige today. The rollers in front of the sprockets are beyond shot. Internals are non existent. Idlers aren't worn to limits and may be OK. I need to check with track off if axles are tight. Top carriers should be real good to use. Only slightly worn from running tracks tight. I think I'm going to need new pads though. The ones that were really loose have pounded a concave bottom where they bolt on. I don't think they'd stay tight and a lot of work to buld them up with special rods and grind them flat. Can the pads be welded on to the rails? The only reason I ask is because the triple grousers still have lots of life on the working side. 5/8 to 11/16ths. high grouser height. I'm looking into seeing if double bar grousers are available. They'd give a little more traction than triples. Doesn't look like I'd get any deal if I only had new pads put on new rails. Basically $550 for pad swap or just new pads. Maybe I should put them on myself? Who invented these darn money pits anyway? LoL Dave

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Billy NY

04-05-2008 07:17:08




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 Re: More $$$ to spend, sigh. in reply to 135 Fan, 04-04-2008 17:46:35  
Wow, sounds like it was run close to destruction, and you can really see what is worn now. The pads are an example where if caught earlier, you may have been able to re-use them, though maybe someone can help with a process for those triple bar pads, to build up the mating surface, don't think welding to the rails would suffice for some reason, but it's not the first time someone has spent some time to save the pads, worth consideration, like you said, no inexpensive solution when you have to replace an U/C.

Ozdozer over at the ACME site seems to have a wealth of undercarriage knowledge too, in addition to others here and there, he's especially knowledgable on aftermarket manufacture, + your track frame alignment issues, those pads, it's always a pleasure to see how all these guys are willing help people and the combined knowledge they have to share, also post over at ACMOC if you like, more exposure might get some additional ideas. Only reason I mention it is that some of those guys have done some really interesting modifications and other things on track type tractors, using machinist skills etc. another set of eyes if you get my drift.

2 things I enjoy the most is reading the technical discussion, and all the friendly people who help out that have taken these things down to nuts and bolts, there was one guy in the UK that works out of an SUV and takes the finals apart on those D8K's looks like he could probably do that blindfolded + and other big repairs, he was posting photos of the work too, some really interesting threads.

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135 Fan

04-05-2008 11:35:30




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 Re: More $$$ to spend, sigh. in reply to Billy NY, 04-05-2008 07:17:08  
New pads are around $18 each. I could build up my old ones and have them put on a milling machine to be perfectly flat but that would probably cost me at least twice as much. I'd have to fix the holes as well and redrill or punch them. 74 pads times $18 adds up though. I don't want to mix new and old pads. My tight pads are still good. Dave



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Bob/Ont

04-04-2008 17:56:07




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 Re: More $$$ to spend, sigh. in reply to 135 Fan, 04-04-2008 17:46:35  
Even if you did build them up the worn bolt holes would cause trouble Dave. The sprocket counterweights you mention sound like segments to me. Do the teeth unbolt from sprocket???
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135 Fan

04-04-2008 18:48:32




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 Re: More $$$ to spend, sigh. in reply to Bob/Ont, 04-04-2008 17:56:07  
It's just my luck. I'm hoping double bar grousers are available. Do you think they would be much better than triple grousers? My sprockets are one piece. Loaders have a big round counterweigt bolted on from the back side. I think I figured out how they hold them to put them on. A lifting eye is threaded into the weights so it can be supported with a hoist of some sort. Kind of like for taking the front rad and guard out. I should just put the old tracks in an auction. Somebody would probably buy them. If, when I put new track pads on I think I should replace them all so they are the same height. I keep getting better prices though but undercarriage and cheap doesn't exist. Dave

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