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need help with 2 cyl john deere track loader

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4 STATES SALVAG

10-02-2005 19:31:43




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I have a 1959s yellow track loader I am trying to find a possible model numper. it has a cast iron grill cowl with a flat grill isert to cover the radiator and pump Not like a m tractor).it has a 2 cylinder upright gas engine like a john deere m mt or 50 it has a 6 volt charging system.It runs great with a 5 speed transmission and no rops.it will turn right but will not turn left (the left handle comes back further than the working one). Model and possible repairs suggestions would be greatly appreciated thanks
Dale dbpc331@valornet.com

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NC Wayne

10-02-2005 21:33:12




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 Re: need help with 2 cyl john deere track loader in reply to 4 STATES SALVAGE, 10-02-2005 19:31:43  
I'm not sure if a 420 is the sameas a 430 or 440, but if it's a 430 or a 440 Deere with a loader bucket it sounds like you just need to adjust the steering clutch and brake on that side. Better yet go ahead and do it on both sides and then the lever pulls will be the same for both which makes it alot easier to operate. Here's how you djust everything... First look on the top of the steering clutch housing, just under the seat. On the top of the housing you should find a raised square cover with four 1/4" bolts holding it down and just over the front (just above where your ankels are when your setting in the seat)you should see another round plug like you'd find in the top of a 55 gallon drum. Remove the cover and the plug. Now using a long extension with a 1/2 socket reach down through the round hole and loosen the bolt on the throwout bearing collar. Now move the collar out til it touches the clutch fingers. If you look with a flashlight you'll see the bolt is in a curved that allows the adjustment. While holding it against the fingers pull the steering lever back 1-1/2 to 1-5/8 inch as measured from the dash to the lever, directly below the handle. While holding the lever in this position insure the bearing is still against the fingers and tighten the bolt. Now with the steering clutch adjusted you can move on to the brake. Now using a straight blade screwdriver reach through the square cover, on the front outside corner. You'll be putting it between the two legs of the lever you ses there. The nut is round with 4 slots cut in and the stud, of course, through the middle. Because of this it helps if you have a screwdriver where the blade and the shank are of similar widths. Now tighten the nut clockwise as far as possible, then back it off 1/2 turn. You'll feel the "clicks" of the locking detents as you turn it so make sure you stop in a detent so it locks. Now look toward the inside of the square cover and you'll see a bolt going through a lever with a lock nut on it. Loosen the locknut and back the bolt out til it's flush with the lever. Next Pull the steering lever back til you feel the throwout bearing touch the clutch fingers, this should be about 1-1/2 inches (the first setting you made. With the bearing setting against the fingers now run the bolt you just loosened in til it touches the brake lever arm and then back it off 1/2 turn and tighten the locknut. If you did all of this in the correct order you should be back to steering like new. If this doesn't solve the problem then you've got further problems and will probably need to remove the final drive. If it's still pulling and releasing (ie the track stops pulling when you pull the lever) but it simply doesn't turn then the problem is probably a worn brake lining. Worse case you'll be in the same boat I'm in with a broke band. This adjusting proceedure is pretty much straight out of the book,. It's easier to explain with a few pictures showing exactly where the parts are, but I hope this helps anyway. If not post again and I'll be happy to clarify any of the steps if you need me to.

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ralph oregon

10-02-2005 20:00:21




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 Re: need help with 2 cyl john deere track loader in reply to 4 STATES SALVAGE, 10-02-2005 19:31:43  

it sounds like a 440IC with a 91 or 831 loader. ralph



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old

10-02-2005 19:56:41




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 Re: need help with 2 cyl john deere track loader in reply to 4 STATES SALVAGE, 10-02-2005 19:31:43  
I don't know much about them but it could be a 40 or 420 and also a number of others. You might try the JD board



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Lavoy

10-03-2005 07:54:59




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 Re: need help with 2 cyl john deere track loader in reply to old, 10-02-2005 19:56:41  
It is a 440 crawler.
Lavoy



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