Posted by Straw Boss on February 17, 2013 at 14:06:31 from (74.221.167.226):
I went to the same toy show yesterday as 1370rod. Lots to see, lots of people, lots of high prices. The toy industry must be recovering. Everyone wants top dollar for everything. One dealer told me the Case 67-69 30 series paper is in high demand. He said five years ago they couldn't give them away. There was a Vindex cast iron plow for $1200. About what I expected so must be late model stuff going up in price.
Saw a new Spec Cast Case DC with a loader. Prices ranged anywhere from $60 - $90 for what would have been a 35 dollar toy not to many years ago. And what a disappointment!!! For the money this thing is not even a highly detailed precision OR has the correct color on the loader. It should be green. AND the tractor is painted Allis Chalmers orange, not Flambeau Red. Repeat...IT'S PAINTED ALLIS CHALMERS ORANGE!!! Now that Spec Cast has sold out to the foreigners, looks like quality and historical accuracy have gone out the window.
Now my rant. It seems every piece of John Deere or IH equipment ever made has been recreated in precision models to the point they are making short line pull type sprayers and sugar cane harvesters to come up with something new and you CANNOT tell me there's a big demand for sugar cane harvesters in an expensive precision model.
They have made combines, pickers, manure spreaders, front mounted cultivators, corn planters etc, etc for the other brands. Meanwhile I'm STILL WAITING for a Case precision 6 bottom plow or a disk to put on the shelf behind my precision 930 and 1030 tractor. Its not like I want them to make us a chisel/planter with seed and fertilizer boxes and with drop tubes and chain drives on everything even though they would do it for the green and red guys. Whats the problem? Is it so much to ask for?
Ertl keeps regurgitating the "half hearted attempt at detail" 70 series to the point of sickness while Spec Cast has done the same with the model D. They all look to be variations of just two tractor styles. Not every collector wants twentyfour different variations of 2 tractors. Then the toy companies say Case toys just don't sell and they blame us Case collectors for low sale numbers.
I say they just don't make many Case toys people want. Example, after the Model D, Spec Cast came out with a 2 bottom plow. Why wasn't it a 3 bottom plow? A 2 bottom plow belongs on a VAC or an SC, not a DC.
Here's my list of Case tractors I'd like to see in the Ertl precision and quality of the 930/1030. Many of these they could double up with very little changes and make two or more models with one casting.
Racine 400. Very popular with many people. Could be done in multiple variations and matching implements. I think they could sell the sh!t out of them.
Racine 500 and 600 diesel. Other than change the radiator tank casting, color and tire size would be easy.
Late model 730/830 with a few implements. Again, Standard, Rowcrop, Wheatland, Orchard and High Crop versions could be made with the same castings. Just change out the axles, fenders and tire sizes.
The cross motors have never been done in precision. An 18-32 would be the most common on the farm for collectors to want on the shelf and it could be done again as a 15-27 in green and black with only one change on the rediator tank. But I would buy a 12-25, 20-40 or 10-20 tricycle in a heartbeat.
The model L in a precision is not the most exciting but again an icon in Case history and a tractor many people still have in their collection or inherited from Grandad and have it in the shed. Two version could be made with an early model on steel and a late model on rubber. A quality precision Grand Detour plow to go with it would be nice or eventually a threshing machine. I know some of you guys would take it farther and put a cab and snow plow on it or make an LI roadgrader out of one.
For the toy company, the model C may be a better choice as many models could be produced with the same casting. C, CC, CH, CO, CI, etc. Some on steel. Some on rubber. Many popular implements were available for these tractors back in the day from tillage to hay tools and harvesting machines. Ertl should be able to come up with something to compliment the toy.
I like the 930/1030 so I'd like to see Ertl re-issue them but flip-flop the versions. I'd like to have a 930 western and I'd like a 1030 rowcrop with a factory cab. I think it would cost Ertl very little to do this for us and I think they would sell. I think they got it wrong in the first place as 95% of all 930s from 60-69 were wheatlands and most 1030s were rowcrops and many of the rowcrops had the factory cabs.
For reasons of simple popularity, an 800 C-O-M would be desirable but I'd also like a 900B or an early long nose 930. Both could be made with one casting.
I've been told in the past the Case toys just don't sell. 930/1030s were as low as 60 bucks five years ago but you can't find them for less than 150 now. Some were auctioned for nearly 200. Is the market ready for more Case precisions? I think so. What would you guys like to see made in a precision? I haven't even mentioned a hundred years worth of combines or balers or ....
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