I have had 3 differnt stall barns with Patz gutters. I totally diasgree with Rod, there is no reason to be scooping manure out of the gutter by hand. Fix what is causing the chain to jump and be done with it. There is no reason to spend an hour busting the chute loose. It doesn't take a whole lot of common sense to line the chute with the high strength plastic and never again have to worry about the chute freezing down. It is just makes no sense to take out a gutter cleaner. If the reverse curve is worn out, then unbolt it and bolt in a new curve. If the drive star is worn out, either weld the teeth back up or put one of the new five tooth stars on it. There is nothing on a Patz that can't be fixed to make it work. On the other hand there is nothing on a Badger that can easily be fixed to get the gutter run out. My last tie stall barn had 102 cows on one chain and the entire heifer barn on another chain. I spent 3 years working at the MSU campus dairy and in one barn they had 80 cows in 4 different rows with the Patz gutter winding between the rows. There is no system as efficient as a gutter cleaner, you just have to keep up on maintanance and when parts wear out, replace them. I did like one other poster did, I had a 5 gallon teat dip jug with a spigit that I laid over the concrete holding the reverse curve. I had modified the spigit so when I turned it on it just dribbled. Every morning when I ran the gutters out I turned that spigit on and let it slowly dribble used oil on the chain just as it comes into the reverse curve. The first chain lasted 8 years, the second one lasted 14 years, the third chain only lasted 7 years, found out later that was when Patz started making the chains themselves instead of the local foundry in Pound making them, and Patz made an inferior chain which didn't last. The 4rth chain is still in the barn and ran 11 years. I had my chute frame made from stainless and put in the plastic liner and stainless liner in the reverse curve. Keep the corner wheels greased as well as the drive head. Oil the chain and it is the most reliable manure removal system out there.
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