farmerboy, you say this, which I respect, "but then there's up-by-thier-bootstraps guys like me........... I pay all my bills off every month. Tell them to take responsibility for their lives and set up making payments. When people get out of bills through tricks, everyone else pays for them through higher costs." BUT, you also advocate 'single payer universal medical',,,,,,,,very inconsistent........single payer universal medical is outright asking/mandating that all the rest of the responsible hard working people step up and pay someone else's bills. Plain & simple.
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