Re: Well Hydrant????

Posted by NE IA on February 17, 2009 at 22:26:41 from (206.72.18.153):

In Reply to: Well Hydrant???? posted by SJ on February 17, 2009 at 09:39:26:

Sure don't want to argue with you, but if that hose is in the water it should make no differance at all...unless there is a float or valve on the end of it. That hydrant should suck the chrome off a ball hitch sucking backwards, or the water in the hose should grab enough air from under the ground to drain it into the bucket.

This will always work if the hydrant is installed correctly -----and there is good drainage under the hydrant. Every fire hydrant works on the same principal---nothing in the hydrant to freeze, and you sure do not need a heat tape of any shape size or form. Again the hydrant should be dry once the hydrant IS SHUT ---COMPLETLY OFF. This would not be true if you used a soft hose that will colapse, and not drain decent.

And we must realize that if anything is not perfect this system will fail. Many hydrants are not installed with a good drainage material under them. One other problem is a lack of ocasional use, and rust plugs the drain back hole at the bottom. Sometimes they pull hard and get out of adjustment.

Often folks place the hydrant inside another pipe, and that allows cold air to travel downward faster than through the earth.

We have a rule in my comunity (I'm being a smart A$$ now) to never fix anything dealing with water problems unless the ground is froze hard, and it is very cold outside. I assume the reason is because no one wants to break a sweat when repairing water problems. And they never freeze in the warm summer months, so why fix them.

A few years ago on Christmas eve at 7PM I was asked to simply turn the water hydrant apart under the frozen ground and simply push the new hydrant into the hole in the frozen ground to replace the old hydrant. And to add to the flavor, it was in between some buildings that a backhoe could never ever get to.

I had to do some fast talking, because the farmer just knew it could be done. I told him I had problems starting iron pipe threads inside a heated work shop, let alone six foot under the frozen ground where I couldn't even see the other end of the pipe let alone the threads, besides no way to hold it with a pipe wrench six ft down. In the conversation he told me he was having problems the last winter with it, just never got around to getting it fixed. When I asked if there was a shut off, he said just one, but it shuts off the house and every water line on the farm, and we are having everyone here for x-mas tomorrow. It was about fifteen to twenty below, and lots of wind for santa that evening, and would have taken me a hour to dig the snow out to get to the jackhammer.

So while everyone else was dreaming of santa, I was a thinking of beating a farmer with a scoop shovel on x-mas eve.

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