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Re: Farmall C clutch problems


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Posted by ScottyHOMEy on December 08, 2008 at 22:44:43 from (71.241.214.215):

In Reply to: Re: Farmall C clutch problems posted by chris rosemark on December 08, 2008 at 21:23:39:

Tractorman was onto something, too.

From the ones I've had open and looked at, the forks, if they've seen a lot of use, can bow, so it is possible that yours is giving out. It's also possible that it got put back in backwards, but that would put the bow forward and be reducing your freeplay, not increasing it.

Another issue is that a replacement bearing, if that was done when you replaced the clutch, might not be pressed into the carrier deeply enough, but that would give you a problem, again, with not being able to get enough free play, not having to chase it the way you are.

Again, I'll encourage you to evaluate the possiblity that it's a sticky pilot bushing or to see if the problem goes away by simply holding the clutch pedal down another couple of seconds (the "nature of the beast" non-problem). If the pilot bushing is really a problem, or if it turns out to be a problem with the fork or bearing that Tractorman is onto, the only fix is going to involve splitting the tractor again right behind the motor.

If that becomes necessary, examine the fork first. Any sign of it failing, you need to get a replacement. I have no idea if CaseIHNHFord still stocks such a thing, and you may have to go to salvage or have one fabbed up. It's not a complicated piece to make, but it will take better metal than your typical hardware store flat stock.

I hesitate to suggest that, if you find a sigificant fore-aft bow in the fork that you try turning it around. A slight bow, with no sign of any cracking in the metal is not uncommon and perfectly serviceable and isn't causing your problem. A very pronounced bow with any sign of cracking in the metal is trouble. If that turns out to be the root of your problem, the metal is fatigued enough that you are only delaying the ultimate failure. It's no small thing to split a tractor, and you might as well do it right while you can get in there.

It'd be a good time to look over and evaluate the pilot bushing, too. ;8^) You might actually get away with just cleaning that up, but there'd be no better time to replace it, either.

If there is a problem like I desribed in the earlier post about the fingers on the clutch or even the clearance being off, having the tractor split is your only/best opportunity to do anyting about all that. It's 6* above out, so I won't be trekking out to the garage just now to get the books with the specs for the clutch cover and fingers, but I'd be happy to provide them if that turns out to be the problem.

They changed the format here a little so I'm not sure how to open up my email. Ping me at staylor48 at verizon dot net, if you'd like.

As a last thought for the moment, when eyeballing the actual clearance between the throwout bearing and the clutch fingers when you think you have your free play about right at the pedal, get a long screwdriver or a stick in there to make sure the fingers are pressed all the way forward (away from the bearing face)before you evaluate that 3/16" gap. If nothing else, having all the fingers at a reasonably uniform distance is as critical as anything to having a good starting point for getting you runnin' in good order.


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