Posted by RN on November 22, 2008 at 09:50:00 from (96.60.81.161):
In Reply to: Re: OT .45 ACP posted by Glen D Anderson on November 22, 2008 at 08:29:44:
One factor is intended user- most will NOT be using it regularly in a combat situation. The training time for a 9mm is less , accuracy is and stopping power are considered 'adequate' for the job intended- a personal protection/secondary weapon for close in use one handed- Ammunition availability is another concern. Penatration is another factor - the 9mm high velocity hard ball does usually have the advantage. Many other armies have wider issue of submachine guns than US with the M16 'one gun does most needs'. As noted the .45 will be used by some special units for their 'use on unarmored body' or suppressed needs- but they can put in the extra training to learn to use the .45 and get tigher,tapered barrel bushing on new fluted end barrels. Illinois state police years back adopted 9mm S&W 39 because of the 'shoot through car door/body panel' requirement- .45 hardball was sometimes known to bounce off doors when fired at angle, Cook County sherrifs deputy at shop noted problem and their use of hollowpoints as anti-ricochet round- they had minor feed problems with lead point hanging on unpolished feed ramps- but military usually can't use soft points,etc. 9mmx19 is army acceptable for most use compromise. Could take lesson from Spain and use 9mm Bergman/Largo- about like .38 super- but again the NATO standard ammo supply is a main consideration. US got .308 rifle as standard NATO round, later accepted 9mm pistol round- political compromise. RN
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