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Re: John Deere Riding Lawn Mower charging system


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Posted by t1 on August 18, 2008 at 10:28:12 from (74.70.59.200):

In Reply to: John Deere Riding Lawn Mower charging system posted by Carl Webster on August 18, 2008 at 06:20:10:

If you have the 3 amp charging system, you won"t see that large of a voltage increase.

the 3 amp system is actually 3 parts. one part charges the battery, the second runs the lights, and the third is used to put a load on the engine when its shut off, so it will stop faster.

the lights run off the AC coil under the flywheel, not the battery, UNLESS you have the engine speed below 2600 rpm, and they will then draw from the battery, and you"re charging output is greatly reduced as well.

If you have an electric PTO clutch, then you have the 15 amp system, and you should see 13.8 volts or so. If you don"t have electric PTO, then you most likely have the 3 amp system. Deere did have a service bulletin concerning this, and the fix was to upgrade the system to the 15 amp system.

Here is the theory of operation from the service manual.

Function:
To maintain battery voltage at 12.4 volts or higher, to
provide electrical power to light the headlights, and to
reduce the time it takes for the engine to shut down.
Operating Conditions:
The engine must be running for both the charging
system to operate, and the headlights to be on.
The shunt circuit is functional when the engine is
turned off.
System Operation:
The stator provides DC current for charging the battery,
an independent AC circuit for headlights, and an
additional independent AC circuit that is used to place
a load on the alternator when the engine is shut off.
The battery is not used for lights, so lights are available
even if the battery is disconnected or removed.
However, the lights will draw current from the battery
when the engine is running and below 2600 rpm.
Current for lights is available as long as the engine is
running. The output depends upon engine speed, so
brightness of the lights changes with engine speed.
Magnets mounted to the flywheel rotate around two
coils of wire, (the stator), mounted underneath the
flywheel. As the magnets rotate, current is generated in
the coiled wire and converted, with a diode, to DC
current to charge the battery.
The current from the DC side of the stator is
unregulated and is rated at 3 amps. The output rises
from 2 amps at idle to 3 amps at full throttle.
The shunt circuit is used to cause the engine to stop
faster when the engine is shut off. When the key switch
is in the RUN position and the PTO is off and the brake
is on, or the operator is on the seat, the shunt relay is
energized and opens the contacts that connect one
phase of the alternator to ground. This reduces the
load on the alternator to 2-3amps for recharging the
battery and 3-5 amps for illuminating the headlights.
When the ignition is grounded to shut the engine off,
(See “IGNITION & SHUTOFF CIRCUIT OPERATION–
LT133/LT155”.) the shunt relay is deenergized. This
allows contact across the normally closed set of
contacts, grounding the alternator. This places a load
on the alternator, which in turn places a load on the
engine. Since the engine ignition system has been
turned off, the engine has no power to turn the extra
load. The result is that the engine stops spinning faster.


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