Posted by Goose on July 19, 2008 at 08:03:49 from (199.184.119.22):
In Reply to: Alcohol as a gas posted by Dan-IA on July 18, 2008 at 22:20:44:
Seems like my last few posts have been negative, and for that I apologize. But, here's food for thought.
The July issue of the trade magazine, "Auto Body Repair News" had an absorbing, well researched article on E-85 as an automotive fuel. The prime issue is that, in contrast to gasoline, alcohol combines with water. So what happens when you try to put out a fire?
If you have a fire invloving a gallon of gasoline, and spray it with five gallons of water or foam, you've smothered the fire. If you have a fire involving a gallon of E-85 and spray it with five gallons of water, you have created six gallons of flammable liquid. Tests have shown that E-85 mixed with water 5 to 1 is still flammable. Also, ethanol attacks the bubbles in the foam used prevalently by current fire departments.
So, when there's a vehicle fire, how does the fire department put it out? How do they know how to put it out? How do they know what fuel a car has in it? Does an E-85 capable vehicle have E-85, or E-10 or regular 87 octane? Does a non-E-85 vehicle contain E-85 that some dork has put in anyway? Sometimes the only way to know is to ask the last person to fuel the vehicle, and he/she might be engulfed in a fire in the vehicle. There is a foam that will douse an E-85 fire, but it's expensive and in short supply.
This is just a short synopsis. The article did pose some interesting and disturbing questions.
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