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Re: Castrol Tection 15W-40 oil in a JD 2 cylinder


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Posted by Jon Hagen on April 14, 2007 at 17:24:46 from (75.104.56.247):

In Reply to: Re: Castrol Tection 15W-40 oil in a JD 2 cylinder posted by Jon Hagen on April 14, 2007 at 11:40:55:

Now JD, I think you have a bit of luddite in you.

You said "I will assume that you do NOT automatically assume that someone holding the status of shop foreman is an authority on the subject.
If you do - we have a problem since I was a Deere Ag. and Ind. shop-foreman for 12 years. So, how does one choose which shop foreman to believe?"
By your own statement,should I disbelieve anything you post just because you were a JD shop forman for 12 Years, or should I assume that your position in charge of a dealership repair shop should make you somewhat more enlightned than the average man on the street ?

And yes, I do check the company web site of any oil I choose to use to see what they recommend for the application.
I mean no disrespect for you and your retired JD engineer friend, but you must realize how much motor oil has changed in the last 2-3 years because of the tight diesel emissions rules that demand the cleaner running on road, off road and ag diesels.
While the new oils are more expensive, they can handle soot, heat and loads that were impossible only a few years ago. The great part is that when these oils are used in an older, pre emissions diesel, you see less wear in spite of longer run time between changes.

As to my Detroit 2 cycle engines and multiweight oils, mine are both 400+ HP 8V92's in semi tractors pulling 80,000 + pounds,but they are farm trucks that that are fired up long enough to get the air up and get the coolant up to the 140 range before pulling a full load that never exceeds 6 miles from field to farm.
Under these conditions,milti viscosity oil causes less wear than single grade 40+ viscosity oil because these trucks hardly get the oil warm before the job is over. If I was to load up and run 500 miles before shutting down, I would them use the 40 or heavier single weigh oil as it might or might not be the lesser evil. The same advice would go to the owner of a classic tractor.
Do you remember when it was bragging grounds when a 50's car ran 100,000 miles before needing an overhaul ? Now we are put out if our car engines do not run at least 200,000 miles. Granted,the newer engines are better built, but the modern multi viscosity oils,now usually 5w-20 or 5w-30 have a great deal to do with that also. You see the same thing with a rebuilt classic engine run on modern oils.
Things are changing very rapidly and most of it is for the good, Do not dismiss modern oil just because it is newer than the machine you poar it into. :-)



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