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Re: would like your input on alternative fuels
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Posted by John T on July 03, 2006 at 09:15:06 from (66.244.90.5):
In Reply to: would like your input on alternative fuels posted by Truth seeker on July 03, 2006 at 08:14:16:
It seems on the Discovery or Science Channel or I dreamed it lol there was a discussion of economics and when the land value and cost and its best use and the cost of producing grain such as seed n fuel n fertilize n petrochemicals n insecticide n herbicide etc etc n the machinery costs (including its own gas n diesel fuel) needed to produce it, Ethanol n Bio Diesel etc etc WERE VERY COST INEFFICIENT. i.e. it still takes so much crude oil and other petrochemicals n energy to produce it, its a loosing proposition Any thoughts??? Also, regardless of the source of the fuel or energy to produce heat for steam, arent steam engines terribly inefficient??? i.e. the energy losses in heat (portion that dont perform work) are enormous correct???? Dont get me wrong, im alllllll forrrrrrr alternative fuels and reduction away from crude n foreign oil dependency, Im just saying theres no free lunch and the principles of conservation of energy n physics apply which necessitates lots of engineering trade offs when we consider economics and alternative energy sources. Im thinkin my kids n grandkids will be driving hydrogen (fuel cell???) cars but regardless, Exxon n Mobil etc will still own the delivery n distribution n big oil has so much money n power n influence I dont see us average dudes ever getting ahead. The one thing they cant put a meter on is solar or wind energy (thay hate that I bet lol) so I see its technology as a way free of the utility companies maybe?? Any thoughts John T (retired engineer)
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