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Re: Preserving wood on a flatbed trailer


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Posted by souNdguy on May 17, 2006 at 19:21:28 from (12.65.156.67):

In Reply to: Re: Preserving wood on a flatbed trailer posted by JIM87 on May 17, 2006 at 18:50:52:

Runnoff becomes an issue. That puddle of oil.. while setting on the ground, while waiting to drain into the ground can be picke dup by runnoff water due to precipitation.. also.. and water in contact with it will pick up acidic compound thru leaching, and then can be carried 'right into the water'.. wherever the runoff goes... etc. "rarely hits ground water'.. well.. that's a subjective phrase. I live near 'lake county' You can dig a shallow well with a shovel... some places have standing water ALL year. Another county, 'putnam county' has water in many of it's drainige ditches year round. Last year we did hurricane cleanup and paved a road across an old cattle farm for the city, (near old hwy 17 if you are familiar with the area ). The pasture had standing water in many areas.. driving a piece of heavy equipment across the pasture would make water 30-40' away ripple.. We had to use soil cement for stabilization, and in some cases black base for road support. It was literally like paving a road downt he beach or across a lake.... So.. 'ground water' is different everywhere.. especially when you are talking about florida.

Also.. refering to another comment... crude oil deposits naturally occouring underground is not an 'apples to apples' comparison to the refined product we see as motor oil.. and even farther away from used motor oil.

As for your reference to municipalities 'spraying crude oil' on streets and roads.. I believe you are mistaken. While I have hear of 'ancient history'.. I E stuff from the 50's.. etc, spraying motor oil down.. in recent history, 2 different products are used. One is calle dprime or tack coat.. it is a special asphalt emulsion.. a bituminous material mixed and heated with water... it is environmentally inert / stable once cooled and dehydrated. There is also a special 'dust control' oil that many road depts use, especially rural runways. The GC I work for have handled bids for dust controll oils.. and I can assure yuo DOT spec book does not call for used motor oil.. nor is it 'crude' oil.. which is the unrefined base stock.. etc. We are handling dust control for a large housing project in citrus county florida right now.. again.. no crude oil or motor oil. If you want an MSDS on the dust control oil, look up EA Marianie Asphalt company in florida, and request a MSDS on 'Special MS" and also one of their dust control products... ( no crude oil.. or used motor oil.. etc.. )

Every time we do a big road job, we get dozens of 'uninformed' residents calling and 'reporting' us to DEP for 'oiling' the streets with what they think is 'tar' or used motor oil.. only to be told that it is a different product entirely... etc.

Soundguy


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