Re: New Holland Tractors

Posted by Hurst on August 14, 2005 at 11:18:42 from (204.255.227.24):

In Reply to: Re: New Holland Tractors posted by old on August 14, 2005 at 07:45:57:

Apparently plastic doesn't work great for milk, because it sure seems that your milk was sour. Did I say that the old ones were not better in durability than the new ones? I didn't think I was coming across that way, I am just saying that in the 1930s the largest tractors were around 50 hp. Engines were very large in displacement for their horsepower, they were not as efficient, and most of all they are not up to date with the new standards. Ran into this problem with our allis d17. It was a great tractor, but where can you get a snap coupler woods 90 inch finish mower? or where can you get a snap coupler disk mower? Can't. Sure there were conversions, but those were just ways to keep them up to date as best the engineers could. Agianm you aren't giving new tractors a fair view. I would rather spend my time on my allis 7000 with cab and air conditioning than on my farmall 140. Newer tractors are designed for a different group of people. I am glad that there are people out there who still love the old ones, because if I had all the money in the world, I would go out and start a tractor company that made tractors the way they should be, but guess what, I don't have all the money in the world to start a business. Tractors are evolving as time goes on. Does this B that is just everything have roll bars? NOPE! what happens if you flip her on accident, say you go over a sink hole that falls in from under you, guess what, when she rolls, you are most likely screwed, where if that happened on my allis, It could roll but I would be saved by the rops, maybe scratched and scraped, but still alive and kicking, not pinned under the tractor. Trucks are the same way, I would not have wanted to be in a 1930 truck when our ford got hit by a freight train. If I had been in that, I would have had more than a broken wrist, scarred face and fractured nose, I would have probably been dead. Old, maybe it is time you face reality, times have changed and that old B is great for show, but I wouldn't wanna use it to farm any more, not efficient. Man power has gotten too expensive, so farmers can't afford to have 10 guys on 10 tractors pulling 3-14 plows. This is where the big tractors are needed, take for example an allis D21, farmers could now pull 5 or 6 bottom plows, meaning hey could cut the number of men needed in half when compared to the 1950s when the WD 45 was pulling 3-14 or 16s. We are moving into an era of accuracy, and efficeiency. We have to be able to get the most off an acre of land that we can in order to make a living. So before you come around calling people a f***ing yuppie, maybe you should think of their view too. I know where you are coming from, you probably grew up on these old tractors and have a passion for them, which I stand behind you there, I hate to hear of old machinery cut up for scrap, but you are also coming from a completely different view. I am coming from the view point of a farmer that makes a living with his machinery and livestock. Sure, I am younger than you being 15, but a 10 year that has a dad that farms can tell you that it is about keeping the farm going. Just so you know, the newest tractor I have, a NH tn65 hasn't broken the first, second, hundreth time I hit something. I would much rather have a newer tractor if I was trying to make a living farming, but if I was just doing a hobbie farm, then sure it is fun to have an old tractor. Hope you understand.

Hurst

P.S. Watch who you call a yuppie, I don't care how old you are or how much you think you know, none of those things give you the right to call a person a yuppie. Don't know if you go to church, but if you do, then you should know better than doing that. People like you are supposed to be the ones the younger generations look up to, but would you want your child, grand child, or what ever going around calling everyone who is trying to make a living farming a yuppie??? Don't think so.

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