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Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440


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Posted by G/MAN on December 16, 2004 at 15:38:51 from (67.52.48.10):

In Reply to: Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440 posted by Cliff Neubauer on December 16, 2004 at 14:56:22:

IH didn't invent the hydrostat. They were the only one to put it in a tractor (at least until it more recently became popular in compact utilities), but is that such a good thing? They were fine for light-duty tillage, haying and the like, but as a heavy-use workhorse, forget about it. They were far from popular. Hydrostats are about as inefficient as power transfer gets. Too much of the power gets lost as slippage and heat. They're also usually big $$$ to repair, and are much more sensitive to oil contamination than a powershift or gear transmission. Nobody else offered them because nobody else deemed them worthy of production. As far as Deere goes, the Caster-Action MFWD axles went away when the 7000s and 8000s came out because it was no longer needed to provide a tight turning radius, as those new tractors were designed from the ground up with MFWD in mind. It had been added to a pre-existing chassis style when installed on the 50-series, and the caster-action was required to get a decent turning radius. Everybody knows that. Most of the points I bring up about the 50-series were good enough to stay on the iron for another 10+ years, and the fact that the same basic layout and chassis design endured from the 30-series clear through the 60-series and remained hugely popular is all that needs to be said about those tractors. Large-frame 55s and 60s outnumber Magnums by a fair margin around here, and 8000s outnumber MXs by 10 to 1 or more. And yes, there is a large successful CNH dealership right here in town, so it's not an issue of availability. Had IH come up with a few clean-slate tractors like Deere did with the 4010, 4430, the large-frame 4640 and 4840, 7000, 8000 and 9000, they might still be in business. You can only rehash something so long before you're better off building new, and IH was the king of rehashing.


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