Re: Tips needed on buying older tractor for brush

Posted by John (MO) on September 21, 2004 at 13:55:04 from (198.209.172.106):

In Reply to: Re: Tips needed on buying older tractor for brush posted by Indydirtfarmer on September 21, 2004 at 12:26:13:

You can believe that Deere RAN everyone else out of the country if you want, I have never seen where Deere made that claim.

The facts are that AC introduced the D-19 in 1961, the same year JD introduced the 4010. The 4010 diesel produced 72 drawbar hp from 388 cubic inches. The D-19 diesel produced 62 drawbar hp from 262 cubic inches. It was the first American made tractor to have a turbo charger as factory equipment. John Deere I believe caught up in 1964 with the introduction of the 4020 as far as turbocharging was concerned. In 1964 AC was producing the 190. During the production run of the D-19 and 4010, JD used 32% more cubic inches to produce 14% more horsepower. I'm not sure if they caught up in 1964 with the 4020 against the 190, I know the 4020 jumped to over 400 cubic inches and the 190 grew to 301 cubic inches. If someone is in the market to trade dollars for horsepower in the used tractor ring, you won't find more hp for less dollars than with a D-19. Any tractor over 40 years old may be well worn out, or well cared for and in great shape. So you've got to be careful there no matter what the color. Gosh I wish I could justify owning one of JD's first 4 cylinder tractors, just so I could try and see for myself what some people are so passionate about. But unless I win a few million dollars, spending all the extra that a JD costs just isn't practical to me. Still if that's where someone else wants to put their money, well it is their money and they earned the right to do with it as they like. Now if you want to talk GM vs. Ford, I can speak with more experience there. I did buy a Ford once.

Follow Ups:

• Re: Tips needed on buying older tractor for brush Indydirtfarmer 14:38:20 09/21/04 (2)
  • Re: Tips needed on buying older tractor for brush John (MO) 08:32:25 09/22/04 (0)
  • mower postoakpankey 05:45:31 09/22/04 (0)

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