Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Agricultural engineering -

Posted by Paul in Mich on April 11, 2004 at 21:00:03 from (68.188.227.110):

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Agricultural engineering - pay posted by Lewis on April 11, 2004 at 08:05:46:

Lewis, I got a response out or you, didn't I? If you read my comments, you'll find that whether I agree or disagree, I usually give someone something to think about. While I may not respond to the original question, I may at times respond to a respondant. Nobody including you has to agree with me, but if I got your goat to the point that you respond, then I got your attention. I really don't rail on anyone, not even Joyce. By the way, I bet Joyce can stand up for herself. My point was and still is that while a degree is great and I applaud anyone for accomplishing that, it is by no means a guarantee to success, only a tool. And while I didnt say it, I will now and that is that while there are people who have gotten a degree, there are many more who have gotten an education. My father worked for the U.S.D.A., and while he had a 9th grade education, and he was in no way irreplaceable, his job was divided among 3 college degreed personel upon his retirement. Two of whom didnt cut the mustard so to speak. He was even ordered to tear out a heating system he had installed in a series of greenhouses by a so called engineer, and replace it with an engineered designed system. He did install the new system, but failed to tell anyone that he left his old system intact because he knew the new system wouldnt be adequate. Good thing, because with the first frost, the new system failed and many millions of dollars worth of experimental plants were saved only because some dumb 9th grade moron's system was better designed than the college educated engineers. Now do you want to hear about my un-degreed cousin who set up the first computer system for Dow Chemical Co? I didn't think so. As to the tractor roll over, if you have to ask how far you can tilt a tractor on a slant before it rolls over, you shouldnt get on it to begin with. Its like asking how close to the ditch can you drive without going over the edge. The logical thing is to drive as far away from the ditch as possible, not see how close you can get to it without falling into it. If you had read all the posts, you would have seen that I qualified the engineering data by stating that it is only relative if nothing else goes awry such as droping a wheel into a groundhog hole, which by the way happens quite frequently. In that case, I would hope that you didnt take the tractor to the engineered limits, because you are going to have a major disasater. Thanks, Lewis for responding to my post, as it gave me the opportunity to clarify my point.

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