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Re: Tractor rollover


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Posted by paul on April 08, 2004 at 08:35:42 from (66.60.197.215):

In Reply to: Tractor rollover posted by jimbeck1st on April 08, 2004 at 07:31:01:

Don't see where you will ever get a useful set of data. Way too many variables, and way too many lawyers looking over shoulders.

I do not understand the tilt meters at tractor by net.com and the like. Watch where you are driving, not some silly meter! IMHO ;) They are really facinated with these devices over there, & I do not understand why. What good does it do?

Speed is as important as angle of lean - that is why you will never get useful data. Along with all the variables you can think of with wheelbase & loaded tires & implements & weight of the driver & how full is the fuel tank; add a gopher mound, tire blowout, or someone using 4th gear instead of 2nd, and all the charts & hi-tech meters are worthless.

It all depends on your hill & your tractor/implement setup at your speed and the attention to detail you are using. And the risks you are willing to assume with tire failure & stumps/ gopher mounds/ badger holes.

Do you have a sickle bar mower on the 3pt, are you turning in a curve up the hill or down the hill? We have about 100 variables on just this one operation....

1000 variables, 1000 different charts - worthless. Just go with your gut, and have a good well experienced somewhat timid gut.

A number means nothing here. You have to be involved & understand the situation.

Even if you got some meaningful number for a basic tractor model in some basic configuration, that would only be good for a bare tractor. When do you drive that way, what is the point? As soon as you hook something up to it, the numbers go out the window - everything changed again.

It's like saying 55mph is safe to drive. Yet 1000's are killed on the highways every year, and lots of people going 80mph live just fine. The number is actually quite meaningless to any one situation. A speed limit or a tilt number is just a compromise, and doesn't mean anything in any one situation. An S curve on the county road says 45 mph - with the lumbering big pickup & a loaded trailer, that is pretty fast, I feel better at 40mph! I've taken it many times at 65mph with the car & that works just great.

What good does some number on a piece of paper do you?

Sorry I'm so wishywashy, I should try to offer my opinion better? :)

--->Paul


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