Re: Farmall 560

Posted by Hugh MacKay on February 25, 2004 at 03:01:14 from (216.208.58.115):

In Reply to: Farmall 560 posted by Richard Ralston on February 24, 2004 at 15:57:55:

Richard: I would say most of these guys didn't read your post very carefully. A tractor with duals and a loader probably more stable than most. Your outside duals will make the tractor clsoe to 10 feet wide on the rear wheels. I ran three tractors back in the 70s and 80s, a 1066 with duals never off, a 560 with loader and 656. I had one set of duals that would fit both 560 and 656. I can tell you because of the stability they gave for loader work, they were probably on the 560, 95% of the time. Tractors without loaders and duals will slide sideways down a hill before upset. I experienced this many times with duals on. Now you will need to be a bit more careful with a loader on.

Three items that lower the center of graviety on a tractor, thus giving more stability are width of rear tires, solid weight on rear of tractor or liquid weight in your rear tires. As long as these items are adhered to it isn't going to matter one little bit whether you tractor has narrow or wide front.

My biggest concern with narrow front on a loader tractor is strength. My dad bought his first loader with a new H narrow front in 1951. Being the first loader in the neighborhood that tractor saw lot of loader work. With neighbors doing exchange, dad would have as many as 5 manure spreaders hauling from him. He always joked that the loader was more valuable than the spreader. He moved that loader to a new 300 narrow front in 55. The H had the chanels that run along side engine cracked and welded many times just in 4 years, and it finally broke the torque tube. All of this caused by loader and the fact with narrow fronts, both front wheels will hit an obstacial at same time, whereas wide fronts don't do that. The 300 broke the same chanels, and after re enforcing them it broke the front bolster. I later put a wide front on the 300. They roll so much easier over bad spots when backing with bucket full.

Having said all of this you still have to use extreem caution using loaders on tractors. I never liked loaders on tractors. They were never designed for a loader. Vehicles half the size with engine on the opposite end from loader will load circles around a tractor. In 1972, I bought a Case 1737 Uniloader as I needed a second loader on farm. In 1975 I bought a second Case 1737 Uniloader. Within 6 months the IH 2000 loader was taken off my 560 and packed away in the shed for later use if needed. Some years later I sold the loader.

Just an example of what I saw. My dad and I were cleaning up some soil after barn building. He on one side of dump truck with 560 and loader, I on other side with Case skidsteer. After two loads of me putting 90% of the load on, dad sat in the truck while I loaded him. 4 wheel drive tractors are no better on loaders, they just beat the crap out of the lighter differential.

And by the way Richard, my dad started farming in 1938, since then the farm probably clocked 125,000 hours on tractors with as many as 6 employees. The farm enjoyed a history of never having had a lost time accident.

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