Even if you have the tube in right, it still will try to pull back into the rim during initial inflation. Modern tubes don't have the valve stems in the right place for older rims, doesn't matter which type of tube you use.
It's just hard to grip those stubby little valve stems with your fingers, and grabbing on to them with vice grips hard enough to hold against the chuck mangles the stem.
Once you get enough air in the tube they poke out on their own, but getting there can be difficult.
Best results I've had is taking my thumb and pushing the stem to one side against the hole in the rim while applying the air chuck.
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