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Re: The new green seems to be ORANGE


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Posted by V35B on December 29, 2021 at 06:27:22 from (143.55.59.123):

In Reply to: The new green seems to be ORANGE posted by wilson ind on December 27, 2021 at 12:57:36:

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Yes, very true. But, for that intended market they work. I do predict they will take the market share for the smaller tractors. Below is my personal experience with both, and is merely my 2 cents which probably isn't worth much.

I found myself in the market for a utility tractor for the first time in 2019. The smallest tractor I had was a 130 HP JI Case. We moved from one farm to the other one on the other side of the County, and I then needed a smaller tractor to mow, around trees and do small chore work. I looked at JD, CIH/NH, Kubota, and the other two blue and orange basstard makes. My needs were simple, a small tractor that would operate a 8' shredder, pull a road boss grader, move 5x6 round bales, pull a hay rake, and do general chore work with the forks. That put me in the 65 HP range. It came down to Deere and Kubota for the final cut. I went with the Deere 5065E, over the Kubota for the following reasons.

1) My Deere dealers (there are two different one I use, one is 65 miles North, and one is 60 miles South) have been good to me over the years. I have only used them for parts, as I do all the repairs myself. I have no experience with the Kubota dealer, and they are the same dealer in each location for over a 100 mile radius.

2) The Engine in the Kubota is borderline a POS for several reasons. I do have a lot of experience with Kubota engines as I have over 80 of the industrial V3800 4 cyl 99 HP engines running booster pumps in the oilfield. My experience with them is not stellar. They vibrate to beat hades, they are not as long lived as I think the should be, and they came with the cheapest version of an engine control panel you could imagine. They do not have wet sleeves like the Deere, nor do they have a dry sleeve. So, when we rebuild them, the cylinders have to be bored .5MM over, or if its past that point, they have to be bored and sleeved. The Kubota does not have a conventional engine block, the main caps are made into the lower section. This makes an in-frame impossible if you needed to do that, and heaven forbid you spin a main bearing and have to align bore it. It can be done, but it is a heck of a chore to set it up.

3) The Deere outweighs it a little

4) Everything else was about neck and neck as far as hydraulics, clutch pack design etc.


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