Posted by paul on May 13, 2021 at 09:37:45 from (66.60.196.195):
In Reply to: ih cyclo planter ? posted by swindave on May 13, 2021 at 07:09:28:
The 400 was the first air planter of that type, central hopper, tubes to the rows, etc. Im sure some other company had some components here and there like it.....
As a first design, it worked pretty good. But. It was a first design.
The Ford SoS was a first power shift.
Gleaner N5 was the first rotary combine.
None of those three had stellar reputations, tho all three have become standards of the industry across all colors. Sound concept, early model has some growing pains.
The 400 they forgot to test on hills. It didnt like leaning in one direction didnt seed as well.
It wasnt the best at seed depth in our sticky clay soils.
Seed spacing was terrible. This may or may not affect yield, but it looked like crap when they planted next to a JD 7000 planter. The 7000 had a picket row stand of uniform corn. The 400 looks like someone grabbed a handful of seed and dropped it randomly, too far, too close, a little uneven heights.
The JD 7000 was, and still is, one of the best corn planters made.
As I said below, the 500 and 600 models were band aid attempts but didnt fix much (Ive seen very few of those, no one was buying Red around here). The 800 was a lot better at uniform planting depth and hills didnt bother it. But the seed spacing was still poor, and it still wasnt up to the old 7000. The 900 had some improvements.
The 1200 is when I saw people buying Red in droves again. It had most of the bugs worked out, and adjusting to the soil for seed depth and type was easier, more forgiving that the 7000, they finally had an advantage to talk about again.
Of course the 1980s happened, and IHC went bankrupt in the middle of bringing out a new planter design. The 7000 was a proven design that flat out worked just before the 1980s.
No one bought much equipment there for a while, and the companies didnt have any funds to develop or improve their models. So poor timing is what made the development of the Red planter so much longer and drawn out.
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