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Re: Looking into buying a deutz tractor want info


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Posted by Case30Deutz06 on September 29, 2020 at 16:00:27 from (146.112.44.97):

In Reply to: Looking into buying a deutz tractor want info posted by Tn goat farmer on September 29, 2020 at 06:15:15:

I have a fleet of 5 Deutz tractors. An mfwd 130 06, an mfwd 100 06, a 2wd 68 06, a 2wd Deutz-Allis 7110, and an mfwd Deutz-Allis 6260. We got our first Deutz in the 70s and I just added the 68 06 to the farm this spring.

What I will say the 06 series Deutz tractors are some of the most reliable and solid tractors made. I especially like the larger (80, 100, 130) ones with their fully synchronized transmissions. But I will say I have never spent any time on a 40 06.

Will the 40 06 work out for you? It depends. It is a 40-50 year old tractor. Depends a lot on how it was treated and maintained. I find most people never gave Deutz tractors the same "love" that Deere or IH's got. Also, is it a earlier "gray belly" model (gray engine/transmission/rear end) or a later model with a black underneath? There were some nice improvements made to the series throughout its long run but actually not sure if many changes were made to the little ones.

No one will ever claim Deutz hydraulics to be fast. But strong they are. 3pt lifting capacity ranks among best in their size. Most common problem with Deutz hydraulics on an old 06 is the pump is wore out. There are some aftermarket pumps available at somewhat reasonable prices, and they are easy to change out. You can get the OEM Bosch/Rexroth pump from a Deutz-Fahr dealer, but that is more $$.

In general the 06 tractors are simple and easy to work on. That is one of the main reasons my dad bought his first one. If you are the least bit mechanically inclined you can figure out how to work on them without a manual.

For starting in cold, it depends. I believe a 40 06 would have an inline fuel pump (our 100 06 has rotary) so that is a good thing. Our Deutz tractor with inline pumps will start down to 0 to 10 degrees F without any starting aids. The 6260 will start at -20 degrees F without cycling glow plugs or anything, if the battery has enough juice to crank it fast enough. For the 100 06 with the rotary pump, about 35 degrees F is about all it will start at unaided. But cold starting varies with condition of the engine and fuel system significantly. Some engines just start better than others...even if all are the same model.

For Parts, I have a source up here in Wisconsin for parts and Deutz knowledge that is 2nd to none: Landwehr Repair. I have no concerns about getting parts for any of my Deutz tractors. They have been a Deutz tractor dealer since the early 70s and continue to sell new ones. They have a salvage yard for used parts, but also an impressive inventory of new parts. For an item such as a hydraulic pump, they would have the factory Bosch/Rexroth pump and an aftermarket in stock for you to chose from depending on how much you want to spend. And you can call them up for any repair or maintenance questions. That is free of charge. New parts are on the expensive side to put it lightly, but I am always happy to be able to get parts. Parts are still usual cheap considering the price of new tractors nowadays. Filters you can get from NAPA.

Relatively quick USA Deutz tractor history: KHD was parent company of Deutz engines/tractors. They started selling Deutz/Deutz-Fahr tractors in the USA in late 1960s. Fahr was another German tractor/machinery dealer KHD bought in the 60s. They developed a pretty good following on there own in the USA, but in 1985 KHD bought Allis-Chalmers to form Deutz-Allis. In my opinion a bad move for both KHD and Allis. KHD quit Allis tractor production and marketed their Deutz-Allis tractors through Allis dealers. Although good tractors, Deutz-Fahr tractors were not made for how many American farmers use there tractors KHD refused to change the tractors. It did not go over so well. KHD sold off Deutz-Allis to AGCO on Dec 31, 1989 and AGCO stopped importing Deutz-Fahr tractors in about 1992, though KHD was still making Deutz-Fahr tractors for other countries. KHD was struggling financially for multiple reasons in the middle 1990s and ended up selling Deutz-Fahr to SAME (From Italy). Don't get an air cooled SAME tractor mixed up with a Deutz air cooled tractor. Different machines with different engines. Anyway in the 2000s SAME tried to get Deutz-Fahr tractors back in the USA through different distributors. Currently PFGAmerica is the distributor for them and from what I understand has high ambitions for them. Lets hope it works out, if for nothing else to supply parts for the old ones. AGCO does have parts for some Deutz tractors, but I am sure they are not restocking their inventory at this point and what they have is what you get.

Sorry for the long post. Trying to be helpful. Please ask any further questions.
Dan


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