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Re: What do I need if in the desert if I'm not farming?


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Posted by K5_489 on November 10, 2019 at 13:07:37 from (99.203.105.99):

In Reply to: What do I need if in the desert if I'm not farming? posted by K5_489 on November 10, 2019 at 10:15:03:

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This kind of stuff is why I've learned to ask questions _before_ buying, rather than "Ok...I impulse bought...now how do I rig this contraption to work for me?" :lol: Right now I'm looking more at general ideas, and less so at specific tractor models, and trying to gain of a better understanding at what the different parts of the tractors do/what systems I need/don't need. Such as how it took me a quite a bit of quality time with Google trying to figure out just what the heck a rock arm was on a 3 point, or learning why some tractors could run a FEL OR a 3 point, but not both at the same time, such as with the JD Power-Trol systems (or why someone would even be trying to do so...I couldn't picture a scenario where I would be cycling both at the same time.)

I had thought about the backhoe angle, but nixed it pretty quick after my buddy's Yanmar couldn't even lift the center section of that International axle off the ground (that weighs considerably less than a full engine) with the backhoe even with the FEL and a couple hundred pounds of ballast weight. Not sure of the exact model, but I know he bought it new this year, and I think it's a 25HP model.

I figured it was mostly due to being a 3pt mount style, and with it hanging so far off the back of the tractor, there just was too much leverage to be useful in that fashion. I was thinking a boom pole would be mounted much closer to the rear axle, lessening the leverage, though I was thinking that most of that kind of lifting could be done with the FEL. I would just have a boom pole for anything that would be beyond the forward reach of the FEL. In my mind, I'm picturing something like a typical engine hoist being hung off the 3pt, and maybe boom pole may not be the correct wording here?

Of course, this could also be solved as another poster put it - buying as much as my budget will allow, but I've learned that has it's limits too. My budget allowed me to buy an older class 8 semi truck when I bought the F350...but for hauling project junk home, the 4x4 pickup is far more useful than the semi, despite it being far smaller of a vehicle. I've seen some VERY large farm tractors being sold for cheap (like 200HP range tractors), but I could those being difficult to navigate through my back property areas due to physical size, as well as needlessly feeding fuel to a much larger engine than I'd likely ever use, far more expensive tires and other maintenance costs, much harder to squeeze into the garage for maintenance duties, etc.

The hardest part right now has been trying to find comparison information on my intended uses..the vast majority of discussion for these older tractors seems to be on farming uses (which I understand...most of these are _farm_ tractors, after all :lol:), but being able to pull a 3 bottom plow, or lifting X round hay bales doesn't mean anything to me. But I've found several videos online of people using things like a 8N to pull a box blade down a dirt road, which seems to handle it just fine, so it seems like something of that size/power would be a good starting point for me.


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