Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall 856 vs JD 4020D

Posted by IH1 on August 15, 2001 at 15:28:32 from (209.23.146.39):

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Farmall 856 vs JD 4020D posted by JD70Jim on August 15, 2001 at 08:04:30:

JD70,
If you go read the first post that I put on this board, you will see that I asked people who truly knew the advantages/disadvantages that 856 and 4020 have over each other. I haven't seen any informative comments regarding this question from you yet. You see the subject of 856 vs 4020, and all of a sudden it's a battle of brands.
Also, I don't understand how the hp comparisons between these two tractors are unrealistic. The 4020 has 404ci, producing approximately 92hp at the pto. The 856 has 407cu, and produces around 101hp at the pto. There wasn't a another JD made at the time that was as close in terms of hp rating as the 4020. As I'm sure you know the 4320 had the same motor as the 4020, but it had a turbo factory installed. These tractors produced anywhere from 115-120hp at the pto.
A 100hp tractor might be overkill on small farms like yours and mine, but I think its better to have a little too much power then not have enough to get the job done. We have an old 560. Its a fine tractor for most implements we have, but I wouldn't dare put a chisel plow behind it. I don't think you would want to put a chisel behind your 2510 either. These tractors just don't have the power to handle them. Thats why we need a 100hp tractor.
Jim, I want you to know that the original post was not meant to start a red/green war of words. I'll admit that I am the most fond of IH, and by reading what you have, it's apparent that you are fond of green. I would rather have IH, but if I found out that there were a lot of problems with the 856, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a 4020. I've had many positive experiences on these tractors. I even looked at a '68 with Syncro last weekend.
Right know, both of our tractors are red, but we do have JD's on our farm. We have a model 78 self-propelled swather, and an old 24T baler. That baler is a darn good unit. Other than a few missed knots every crop, we havent had it break in the ten plus years we've had it. IH1

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