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Re: All the pesticide talk ,here's a link to news article


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Posted by JD Seller on August 17, 2018 at 07:26:55 from (206.72.28.211):

In Reply to: All the pesticide talk ,here's a link to news article posted by philip d on August 17, 2018 at 02:42:36:

People will always want things that just are not possible. Free gold and other types of fantasy stuff. You have people so entrenched in their view point, so hard, they will never believe anything that is different. I can tell you we do not use herbicides without thinking about why and if we should. The one big driving thing is cost of production. The difference from making it and not is a few percentage points. So if your going to make it your going to make hard decisions.

Then on a more personal level. We live in the middle of where we use these herbicides. It is ourselves and our children/families that would be effected first. It would be our water that would be effected first. So would any thinking person really think we would risk all of that if we really thought that thee was any risk at all!!!!

We have one of the most educated populations in the history of man BUTTTTT it is so narrow they have little common sense. Look at the poles that asked about organic and other modern farming practices. They are all worded as a neutral cost/effect question. Example: Would you buy organic over non organic food. Simple question. It does not ask if your will to pay more for the organic. The questions are all stacked to have the people think there is no consequence to stop doing a practice.

Also this debate has been taken over by a mainly affluent population that want to impose their view on the world. Europe and the US are affluent when compared to the majority of the world. This is devastating to many poor populations in the world. An example is plants and food production practices. I personally know a professor that has worked his entire life on improving plants to grow in Dry African areas. He is not using GMO anything. His plants are banned in the majority of the African countries because they have a blanket ban in place. This ban was pushed by the EU in order for those countries to get aid from the EU. The biggest one is he has a yam that grow on less water than the current ones grown in that area. He was asked if his plant was genetically different than those currently grown. He of coarse answered that it was because it is to use less water. They never asked him how it was done. He did it the way it has been done for centuries by selective breeding. Took him over 25 years to do it. Instead his plants where label as genetically modified and banned. He appealed this several times and was told his GMO plants would never be approved. HE and his entire department dropped all plant research that is related to food production. So there is a behind the scenes problem this anti-everything but organic is causing.

I am sicken by how polarizing this is becoming. Fact mean nothing. It is all feelings. The stakes are high too. Both ways if either side is really totally wrong then the lives of many will be effected. What Traditional Farmer and many seem to not think about is that we can not have much of a production loss and still feed the people currently living. The population is 4 times larger than it was the last time that this country farmed in a mostly organic manner. Plus over 25% of the population lived on farms at that time too. Labor has been replaced by equipment to a point but still it would require massive increases in farm labor to go totally organic world wide.

I think the answer lays in the middle. I never have been one to think we should drench chemicals on every thing. At the same time limited amounts and timely application have greatly reduce the amounts and toxicity of what is sued today. I also know total organic will not work either in its current form. I do not have all the answers in anyway. I also do know a lot more than the organic crowd would give any of us non organic farms credit for.


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