The "40.5 cents" and "billion dollars" were in reference to what buickanddeere stated. I was trying to kill two birds with one post. Guess in the future I'll reply individually and maybe avoid the confusion. Good catch on that anagram though, I didn't catch that error until after I pressed send. I was going to add an addendum post but now I don't have to, thanx. Actually I was going to say acronyms but alogrithms rings true too. For example here in MI. the public utility commission tacks on a little more to the rate paid to IPPs, this extra is to reflect the savings the utility gains from less wear and tear on their production facility. At least they did a year and a half ago. They were, at that time, in the process of trying to do away or drastically reduce this. So the power companies know they're benefiting from IPPs. As far as your consortium, you forgot to mention how much the utilities sells that green energy for. I would look into it, but not any time soon. I am so swamped and have already wasted more time on this thread than I should have. We used to have a consortium around here that would help you install solar and then sell any excess you had for a premium to the green friendly folks, eventually people figured out they could just buy and install the panels themselves, and I think they went belly up. Another thing that seems to get lost on folks is that most the time subsidies aren't some check sent willy-nilly to the IPPs it almost always takes the form of tax incentives i.e. credits, and as anybody who doesn't file 1040EZ knows there are lots of them. So should I get my knickers in a wad because somebody got a break for putting more efficient windows in their house? Tax incentives -that is a rabbit hole I'm not going to go down. What about schools? Is it "fair" that some of us who have no children have paid state and local taxes all our lives to subsidies somebody else's kid? At some point you just have to shrug and accept that it's for the greater good of the community, and clean air is good for all mammals. So again I ask who is subsidizing whom? As to the rate paid by utilities to IPPs as I mentioned earlier most (of the half of the states that ACTUALLY have net metering) pay whole sale (production) costs. Even where they pay retail rates they still make money (see my reply to showcrop). Finally it wasn't I that took exception to your comment on warranties -the wife drives Pontiacs.
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