Re: Advanced Steamer

Posted by 2002sliverado on January 18, 2018 at 10:35:14 from (216.16.75.34):

In Reply to: Re: Advanced Steamer posted by GVSII on January 18, 2018 at 09:16:31:

I think the warped mindset in the entertainment industry and their trolls in the mainstream media helped fuel dislike for Jay. My favorite late night talk show host was Johnny Carson, who had set the bar so high, no other late night talk show host will ever surpass him. Carson was bright and very quick witted. Johnny poked fun at each president as they were all fair game, and I can only imagine the hey day he would have with the California governor, Jerry Brown, who is now in his second tenure in the executive role for that state. I enjoyed Leno, though, as he wasn't necessarily trying to imitate the legendary Carson. One reason I like Leno over others stems from what appeared to be an impartial neutrality towards political figures. Any politician who screwed up or needed to be "roasted" was fair game, no matter what party affiliation.

I also think Jay was on the receiving end of a great deal of criticism, which I feel he was not deserving of, from the fallout and failure of being replaced by Conan O'Brien. I feel Conan is a gifted and talented individual, but he is not someone whom I look forward to watching every night. Carson was. Jay, too, but not quite like the draw to Carson for me. Growing up during a time when we had 3 television stations covering 2 networks, what we had to watch was limited. As I grew older, we bought a UHF antenna and were able to tune into nearly 20 channels, but I still kept watching Carson. After Carson retired, I switched back and forth between Leno and Letterman. I liked watching Dave's Top 10, stupid pet tricks, Larry Melmon antics, and the bits they did with the deli across the street. After those, I went back to Leno. I preferred Leno's monologue to Dave's.

I must add that Carson was also from the Midwest states of Iowa, and more notably, Nebraska. Someone who came from rural farm country probably has an "in" with the members of this forum, as compared to some "wise guy" who grew up in the city, did the stand up comedy routines in the night clubs, and the like.

I also think Jay is one of the very few in that industry who possesses humility and humbleness. I feel he can connect with the working class citizen. His interest in classic cars and machines makes him more in sync with those who have and do work with their hands. Why else would his name come up in discussion on this forum? I really don't know if the likes of Stephen Colbert, Carson Daley, Seth Meyers, Jimmy Fallon, James Corden, and Jimmy Kimmel have even a remote connection to those of us who are on this forum. I feel Kimmel and Colbert think of the citizens from the middle section and rural parts of this nation as "deplorables," a terms used widely in the final part of and the fallout from the 2016 election, especially by the mainstream media.

I hope this comes across as less of a rant than I think that it is. It was not my intent. I didn't care for either side in 2016, but I disliked one even more than the other. I think most of us are probably more "middle of the road" independents in our politics, and we probably have modest leanings towards one side of center or the other. I don't think we are worlds apart. I hope my thoughts are okay with this group, though.

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