Re: Skid Steer Under Water, Where Do I Start.

Posted by Determined on July 24, 2017 at 07:33:47 from (216.130.212.176):

In Reply to: Skid Steer Under Water, Where Do I Start. posted by Galen Houk on July 21, 2017 at 18:38:34:

Galen

I copied and pasted this from a post on Heavyequipmentforums.

Australia 2011 they had bad flooding and a large amount of heavy equipment spent time under water.

The recent flood event in Australia has left us with a maintenance and reliability problem that needs immediate action. Time is paramount if you want your flooded equipment back to work.

Here are some steps you should take.

1 Under no circumstances start the machine until a proper assessment has been done

2 Establish the exact level the flood water reached on your machine and mark the paint work accordingly. Take note if the machine is sitting at an angle Keep photos taken during the flood event

3 If possible remove drive shafts and tow unit to a wash down pad. Remove all covers and flush thoroughly

4 Disconnect batteries

5 Remove cab floor mats and seats and dry out cab if water reached this level

6 Grease everything to flush out water

7 Now is the time to list what components have been affected and what procedures are needed to recover them.

I will break this down into different levels and it will depend on the machine you have and the type of breathers and systems in your machine

Differentials and undercarriage only flooding

1 You will have to establish the level of the water within each diff taking into account the aspect the unit was sitting at during the flood. This will determine whether you just drain and flush or dismantle. Also you will need to establish if mud has entered This will depend on the type of breather system

2 You will need to clean inside the brake assy's and remove any mud and debris and moisture

3 You will need to check all grease and oil cavities around the articulation ,interlocks ,steering and make a determination accordingly

4 All lower frame electrics should be cleaned and dried

Mid level flooding

1 You will have to establish the water level within each component and system and make a determination as to how to proceed from there. Depending on your breather and dipstick type, this will determine if you have water or mud contamination.

2 The engine computer may have been immersed at this point and so should be removed and dried out and checked.

3 If water has entered the engine oil, this should be drained and flushed.

4 The transmission water inundation level should be established and if it is below the clutch packs, you can just drain and flush.

5 If water has entered the brake tank, the brake system will need to be fully flushed.

6 The coolant system should be checked for water inundation and if water found it should be drained and flushed.

7 All machine electrics to the flood level should be cleaned and dried.

HIGH LEVEL FLOODING

The Engine

The air intake piping will need to be removed and cleaned.

The turbo charger will need to removed and overhauled

The inter cooler will need to be cleaned

The injectors will need to be removed and the cylinders will need to have the water removed and the cylinder liners oiled

The rocker covers need to be removed and breathers cleaned. Rocker gear needs to be cleaned

The exhaust system will need to be drained of water

The alternator and starter motor will need to be removed and cleaned

The oil system will need to be cleaned and flushed

The Transmission

Mud contamination, and the level of the water inside your transmission will determine how to proceed. Besides the engine this is the most critical and expensive component. Clutch port reverse flushing can remove most of the contaminates from the clutch pack hydraulic systems. Combined with filter and screen cleaning and oil replacement, careful start-up procedure can save expensive removal and dismantling.

The Hydraulics

The tank will need to be drained and cleaned and the piping to the pump inlets removed and cleaned. Lower lines below pump level may have to be flushed

Fuel system

The fuel tank should be drained and refilled and fuel filters replaced ensuring fuel lines to the filter are cleaned out

Electrical systems

Many pieces of electrical or electronic equipment can be repaired after being immersed in flood waters. The basic work is not difficult, although there will be components within the equipment which may not be repairable except by experts, due to contamination by chemicals, pollutants, or particulate matter

Connector problems

These may be present from the moment the equipment is re-assembled or they may not show up until later. But in any event they may often be of an intermittent nature and thus difficult to trace.

Metal components including electronic chassis and cases

Here the enemy is corrosion and exposure to air of water-soaked equipment can increase this problem. Often a consideration as to the repair-ability is the ease with which the electronics can be removed from their enclosures. Where equipment housings contain accumulated silt, the use of warm water and detergent might be needed to free-up the electronic components. Remember though that the detergent will also remove any oily film from the metal parts which could be protecting them again rusting. Therefore, it may be necessary to spray the metal parts, housings, cases etc. with a good water-displacing penetrating oil to protect them while the electronic components are being treated.

Most of the problems will be related to either immediate or delayed-action connector malfunctions, especially with equipment that relies on computer-control modules connected, as they are, with numerous sensors. On the assumption that any small sensor ports (to intake vacuum and the like) are free of obstructions, that the wiring harness itself is reasonably dry and that the engine, transmission, differential(s), steering gear, brakes and wheel bearings are free of contamination and properly lubricated, and that any control modules have not been damaged physically, a systematic cleaning and treatment of the electrical and electronic connectors may have to be done before problems can be considered to be the fault of the control modules themselves.

In addition to the sensors, all electrical contacts on the wiring harness should be treated. Everything from head-light connectors, fuse holders, dashboard connectors (such as for dashboard lights, gauges, etc.) to turn-signal switches. (Remember switches can be subject to corrosion too). Screw terminals too should be treated

CAUTION-SEWAGE CONTAMINATION!

Quite frequently equipment that has been submerged in flood waters will have become contaminated with faecal or other harmful bacteria. A precautionary rinsing with isopropyl alcohol will generally disinfect circuit boards from electronic equipment without damaging components although semi-sealed items such as potentiometers may have to be replaced. Isopropyl alcohol can also be used on metal parts and cases, although with some finishes and paints a test should be made to make sure that the alcohol won't damage the finish, In some instances, one of the home disinfectant sprays may be used on the metal parts, but again, test for possible damage to finished surfaces.

For the same reasons, precautions should be taken when handling such equipment to avoid infection! And all such infections should be taken seriously as tetanus shots might be required!

General Maintenance

After start up and run-up operation tests are completed another round of filter and oil changes is called for to get out any residue water and dirt contamination



Recovery of Flooded Heavy Equipment Part 2 by Mechtronik

After the recent flood events in Australia Mechtronik technicians have been working flat out getting a wide variety of heavy equipment up and running again. Using the methods as described in the first blog on this subject We have had a 100 % success rate. It has been 3 weeks now and the damage is accelerating rapidly from corrosion. We have seen some classic mistakes in the recovery process by others who will remain nameless. One instance was days spent removing the injectors and water from the cylinders but forgetting to remove the water from the after cooler which caused cylinder lock-up when the unit was started. Result engine out. Also cranking the engine for long periods to remove the water thereby damaging the bore. Result engine out

The electrical system is copping it the worst. Depending on the design of the electrical system some systems faired better than others.

If the batteries were left hooked up any wiring that has a constant feed will have succumb to electrolysis by now as the system dries out. This can be seen clearly as a green powder around any positive wire.

The only fix for this is to remove the loom completely and lay it out and clean every plug – connection – switch etc. and and replace any damaged wiring Even circuits that are not constantly fed from the battery have suffered damage due to tracking across wet connections.

Localised fires have started in control units with the battery hooked up as the machine dries out.

Some ECU's have suffered electrolysis of internal components and wiring connections. Dashboards tend to retain mud and starter motors are seizing by now.

The engines have faired much better but in the weeks to come if you don't get them turned soon they will seize As the surface rust increases in the bores it is imperative that the engines are rotated only a couple of times to squeeze out the water to prevent lock-up,then started a bit wet to prevent bore damage. Depending on the design of the exhaust manifold you need to ensure that the water squeezed out does not run into the next open cylinder. Loosening the bolts on the manifold can let this excess water out. After your engine has reached operating temperature replace your oil and filter again as any water trapped inside the engine will have mixed with your oil

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• Re: Skid Steer Under Water, Where Do I Start. Galen Houk 08:04:45 07/24/17 (0)

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