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Re: OT - Small town vol. fire chief vehicles


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Posted by RodInNS on April 24, 2017 at 08:04:49 from (184.171.194.151):

In Reply to: Re: OT - Small town vol. fire chief vehicles posted by Bret4207 on April 24, 2017 at 05:32:07:

Well, if your government is mandating something... it's the result of one or two things. 1. The fire underwriters mandate the capacity,
capability and age of your engines. Yes, that is based on NFPA 1901... but it's the underwriters that enforce it, not the municipality. So
depending on the exposures you have, they may mandate a 750-1250 certified pump. If you're rural... no hydrants... then they will mandate a
rating for a superior water shuttle. The minimum to be rated is a continuous supply of 250 gpm for 2 hours and achieved within 5 minutes of
arrival on scene. And that requires you to move the water I think 5 km. Grading performance ratings improve with increased volumes of
waster moved. Even 250 is not easily achieved... and that also requires the property be located within 5 miles of a fire station I think.
The second big boogeyman is the court... or more importantly the trigger happy lawyers and insurance companies that take YOU to court if
you are somehow negligent in losing a structure that probably should have been saved. So the governmental response is simply in tune with
mitigating that risk.

I get where you're coming from tho. Our typical call volume here is about spot on with what you project... and the same type of calls. When
you ammortize the cost of equipment here we'd be somewhere in the vicinity of Cad $ 60k annual operating budget to keep our station open.
So if you're the government people looking at that ask... and you're basically doing exposure protection, grass fires etc and the structure
is going to burn down anyway... and everybody goes off to court... what incentive is there for them to fund it? We're looking at trucks now
to replace a tanker/pumper that is 29 years old. It will likely require 275K to replace. The municipality will not fund that in full but
may fund part of it... leaving us to come up with probably 150k... but if we don't, all goes back to zero. Insurance rates will go up, etc.

Rod


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